Hi Marko,

I’m going to refer to the transpiler syntax as “block syntax.”

1. How does Eiffel do formal contracts?
2. What’s the use case for preferring block syntax over lambda syntax? Is the 
block syntax only better when multiple statements are needed to test a single 
contract condition? 
2. If the last proposition is true, how often do we need multiple statements to 
test or specify a single contract condition?
3. When we do need multiple statements to formally verify/specify, is it 
usually a better idea to factor out major functionality of the contract testing 
to an external function? (So other contracts can use the same external function 
and the intent of the contract is clear trough the function name)
4. If this is true, is it a good idea to include a contracts/ folder at the 
same folder level or a .contracts.py file to list “helper” or verification 
functions for a contract?

I think we should answer questions two and three by looking at real code.
—

If MockP is supported, it could be used for all the contract decorators:
@snapshot(var=P.self.name)
@post(var=R.attr == P.old.var)

The decorator can also check the type of the returned object, and if it’s MockP 
it will use MockP protocol and otherwise it will check the object is callable 
and treat it as a lambda.

Your approach has better type hinting, but I’m not sure if type hinting would 
be that useful if you’re adding a contract whilst writing the function. 

James Lu

> On Oct 1, 2018, at 1:01 AM, Marko Ristin-Kaufmann <marko.ris...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi James,
> 
>> Regarding the “transpile into Python” syntax with with statements: Can I see 
>> an example of this syntax when used in pathlib? I’m a bit worried this 
>> syntax is too long and “in the way”, unlike decorators which are before the 
>> function body. Or do you mean that both MockP and your syntax should be 
>> supported?
>> 
>> Would
>> 
>> with requiring: assert arg1 < arg2, “message”
>> 
>> Be the code you type or the code that’s actually run?
> 
> 
> That's the code you would type. Let me make a full example (I'm omitting 
> "with contracts" since we actually don't need it).
> 
> You would read/write this:
> def some_func(arg1: List[int])->int:
>   with requiring:
>     assert len(arg1) > 3, "some description"
> 
>   with oldie as O, resultie as result, ensuring:
>     if SLOW:
>       O.var1 = sum(arg1)
>       assert result > sum(arg1) > O.var1
> 
>     assert len(result) > 5
> 
> This would run:
> @requires(lambda P: len(P.arg1) > 3, "some description")
> @snapshot(lambda P, var1: sum(P.arg1), enabled=SLOW)
> @ensures(lambda O, P, result: result > sum(arg1) > O.var1, enabled=SLOW)
> @ensures(lambda result: len(result) > 5)
> 
> I omitted in the example how to specify a custom exception to avoid confusion.
> 
> If we decide that transpiler is the way to go, I'd say it's easier to just 
> stick with lambdas and allow no mock-based approach in transpilation.
> 
> Cheers,
> Marko
>  
> 
> 
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