On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 07:29:59PM -0700, Christopher Barker wrote:
> I think this may be a worthwhile idea — after all, “namespaces are one
> honking great idea”
> 
> This would be an opportunity to clearly define the “standard library” as
> something other than “all the stuff that ships with cPython”

CPython is the reference implementation. It is expected that anything 
shipped by CPython ought to be shipped by all other implementations, 
unless there's a very good reason not to.

Compliance is a Quality of Implementation issue, not a deal breaker.


> With that in mind:
> > Would MicroPython include framebuf in stdlib, PyPI include cffi, etc.?
> 
> No, they wouldn’t. The Stalin would be, well, a standard. If something  is
> only going to exist on some platforms or implementations, they should not
> be in that namespace.

"Standard" doesn't mean "available everywhere, in every version of 
every implementation".


> A “pypy” or “upy” namespace would be the place to put those things. Then
> it’s obvious to everyone where code that uses those will and won’t run.
> 
> Granted, something like MicroPython May never support the entire Stdlib,
> but the goal should be to define what a “complete” stub is.

Please, let's avoid scope-creep. The proposal here is simple and 
limited: make the std library modules available through a special 
"stdlib" namespace. It's going to be hard enough to write the PEP and 
get it approved without blowing the scope out to include defining 
acceptable levels of functionality for stubs used by alternate 
implementations.


-- 
Steven
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