On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 3:55 PM Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:43 AM Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 3:33 PM Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:28 AM Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org>
> wrote:
> >> > Open question: at runtime, what should `int | str` return? I don't
> want this to have to import the typing module. Maybe we could make a very
> simple `Union` builtin. This can then also be used by `~int` (which is
> equivalent to `int | None`).
> >> >
> >>
> >> Would it be okay to have a very simple Union builtin now, and it just
> >> always returns exactly that, and then in the future it might
> >> potentially actually return Union[int, str] ?
> >>
> >> I'm not pushing for it *now*, but it would be extremely handy in the
> >> future to be able to say isinstance(3, int|str) and have it be
> >> meaningful.
> >
> >
> > Are you suggesting we introduce the "very simple Union builtin" earlier
> than the "int | str" notation/implementation? Why? 3.8 is closed for
> features, so it would be 3.9 at the earliest -- plenty of time to implement
> this right (including `isinstance(x, int|str)`).
> >
> > I do think we should probably review PEP 585 before doing anything about
> unions specifically -- likely there are bigger fish to fry. (And PEP 585
> has not received much discussion.)
>
> No, I mean that at run-time, int|str might return a very simple object
> in 3.9, rather than everything that you'd need to grab from importing
> typing. Wondering if doing so would close off the possibility of, in
> 3.12 or something, making it a more directly usable "type union" that
> has other value.
>

I think typing shuld just re-export the builtin Union and deal with it.

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