> On 8 Oct 2019, at 18:59, Todd <toddr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 12:46 Anders Hovmöller <bo...@killingar.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Oct 2019, at 18:35, Todd <toddr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 12:22 PM Andrew Barnert via Python-ideas 
>>>> <python-ideas@python.org> wrote:
>>>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 21:21, Caleb Donovick <donov...@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > >  But what if you wanted to take both positional AND keyword?
>>>> > 
>>>> > I was suggesting that that wouldn't be allowed.  So subscript either has 
>>>> > a single argument, a tuple of arguments, or a dictionary of arguments.  
>>>> > Allowing both has some advantages but is less cleanly integratible. 
>>>> 
>>>> The problem is that half the examples people conjure up involve both: 
>>>> using the keywords as options, while using the positional arguments for 
>>>> the actual indices. Calling the proposal “kwargs in getitem” encourages 
>>>> that thinking, because that’s the prototypical reason for kwargs in 
>>>> function calls.
>>>> 
>>>> If there were non-toy examples, so people didn’t have to imagine how it 
>>>> would be used for themselves, that might be helpful.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here is an example modified from the xarray documentation, where you want 
>>> to assign to a subset of your array:
>>> 
>>> da.isel(space=0, time=slice(None, 2))[...] = spam
>>> 
>>> With this syntax this could be changed to:
>>> 
>>> da[space=0, time=:2] = spam
>> 
>> I must have missed something... when did the proposal we're discussing start 
>> allowing : there? 
>> 
>> / Anders
> 
> 
> Why wouldn't it?  

Because

>>> dict(foo=:1)
  File "<string>", line 1
    dict(foo=:1)
             ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

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