Hi folks, moderator here. I’d (strongly) suggest no further replies, unless there’s something Python specific to discuss. I’ll put the list into emergency moderation for a bit.
thanks, —titus > On Nov 11, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Ricky Teachey <ri...@teachey.org> wrote: > > > I have found that trying to explain the value of true notation to people who > lack the experience and training is always a losing proposition. I'm already > regretting having started this thread, simply because I know how this works. > Frankly, it's almost like trying to engage with a religious person while > trying to discuss the lack of evidence for the existence of supernatural > beings. They "know" what they "know" and it is a very rare case that someone > is actually going to get out of that box and comprehend what you are saying. > > > > I am done with this thread. It has received nothing but close-minded > hostility. Which is fine. I understand. That's the way the world works. > I've seen this kind of thing happen in many domains, not just programming. > > > > I intend this response in the most friendly and kind way possible: > > Approaching discussion in such a manner-- i.e., with the assumption that > other people, who see things differently than your (in your view) grounded, > logical, thought through, and deeply held standpoint, must "lack" things like > experience, training, or comprehension (in the example of your interlocution > with religious people) if they continue to differ with you-- could be one > reason people have reacted with what you are interpreting as hostility. > > People often naturally react hostile way when they detect the person they are > talking with believes they are lacking in some way. > > Furthermore, speaking as a religious person who is coming from a tradition > that is deeply introspective, and has grappled for centuries with other > points of view, I suggest that disparaging the ability of religious people to > "comprehend" your views doesn't make the point you think it does. Might want > to find a new example. My two cents. > > --- > Ricky. > > "I've never met a Kentucky man who wasn't either thinking about going home or > actually going home." - Happy Chandler > > _______________________________________________ > Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/VLSRRZXV4IVT4K77WVNZMGVEEDQMNFCZ/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/JUJ4PBZEJUWZE4EDJCJ3AUEEGM3XKNGX/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/