On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:38 AM Andrew Barnert <abarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On May 11, 2020, at 10:57, Alex Hall <alex.moj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:50 AM Christopher Barker <python...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Though it is heading in a different direction that where Andrew was
>> proposing, that this would be about making and using views on sequences,
>> which really wouldn't make sense for any iterator.
>>
>
> The idea is that islice would be the default behaviour and classes could
> override that to return views if they want.
>
> I'm still confused about this -- islice returns an iterator that iterates
over the passed-in iterable -- that is standard behvior for most tools in
itertools.

So I ca see that it would be nice to have a slice syntax that would work on
all iterables, not just sequences, but I *think* that's a totally different
idea.

Anyway, thanks all for the input. When get a chance, I'll update my
proposal with the input.

I think I'll go for Andrew's idea of a sequence_view object -- that would
give me my "lazy slice", and other nifty features.

> But maybe doing it _just_ for view slicing, rather than for everything,
and requiring a wrapper object to use it, is a lot simpler, and useful
enough on its own.

I'm not quite sure what a "view for slicing" means, but maybe it's what I'm
thinking about. But I would describe what I'm thinking about is a view
object that you can get with slicing syntax.

There are two key parts here -- we *could* have just an iterator with slice
syntax, and also a view without slice syntax, but Im all for getting them
together.

Again, I welcome PRs on my notes and prototpe code:

https://github.com/PythonCHB/islice-pep

I'd particularly welcome text about the motivation and use-cases for a
sequence view object -- my text is all about only the iterating part.

-CHB




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