Since cutting releases is done by the release manager, producing such meta would have to be part of his or her role.
The tools RMs use are here: https://github.com/python/release-tools/ The PEP describing the process: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0101/ Looking through the release.py script I found that the python.org seems to already have a REST API for releases: https://www.python.org/api/v1/downloads/release/ for files: https://www.python.org/api/v1/downloads/release_file/ which is defined here: https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/blob/master/downloads/api.py So I guess we can end this discussion with "patches are welcome", but please make sure that the RMs don't get extra work just because someone thinks it would be cool to have more meta data available. Oh, and a PyPI package to read the meta data would be nice as well ;-) Looking at the data that's already available, it seems you're only missing the name of the release manager and a list of available doc languages. Not sure where you'd get the latter from, perhaps check for "python-doc-*" repos on https://github.com/python ?! On 28.05.2020 21:18, Wes Turner wrote: > Does there need to be a webapp? Or could it just be a JSON-LD file in a > static site; maybe with a GH Action that validates (and maybe generates) > the data according to a schema. > > Here's a rough sketch of a schema for this data: > > "Generate Misc/NEWS from individual files" (2017) > https://github.com/python/core-workflow/issues/6#issuecomment-290493601 > > On Thu, May 28, 2020, 4:09 AM M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com > <mailto:m...@egenix.com>> wrote: > > On 27.05.2020 23:46, Joseph Banks wrote: > > The downside to the FTP solution however is that little metadata is > > present about the versions > > > > The FTP pages are primarily for downloading versions which isn't > the aim > > of the proposal, it's to be able to fetch the metadata. > > > > Adding some sort of metadata file to all versions on the FTP server > > would solve the problem but at that point I'm not sure the > "doesn't need > > any new process" argument still holds water. > > It was an FTP server. Nowadays, the files are served up via HTTPS. > The FTP server has been switched off long ago. > > The point about not needing more process is that you always need > someone to maintain any such addition. > > It would be fairly easy for someone to step up and start maintaining > such an index, perhaps even as a PyPI package, but such resources are > only useful when fully maintained over long periods of time. > > In terms of meta data, the best we currently have are PEPs > for each minor release version, the downloads page on python.org > <http://python.org> > for release dates and PEP links, and the location I mentioned for > quickly grabbing the download files. > > > On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 22:36, M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com > <mailto:m...@egenix.com> > > <mailto:m...@egenix.com <mailto:m...@egenix.com>>> wrote: > > > > On 27.05.2020 18:59, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > > On Tue, 26 May 2020 22:19:12 -0400 > > > Kyle Stanley <aeros...@gmail.com <mailto:aeros...@gmail.com> > <mailto:aeros...@gmail.com <mailto:aeros...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > >> > > >>> It could become more detailed about each minor versions, git > > tag, links > > >> to changelogs, links to the repositories, to the docs, download > > links, > > >> and so on. > > >> > > >> I don't know that it needs to be said, but for now, I think we > > should start > > >> with a minimalist approach by keeping the API focused on > reducing the > > >> number of *existing* locations to update, rather than > predicting > > what might > > >> sort of fields might be useful to include. Otherwise, it could > > very well > > >> end up becoming more work to maintain compared to what it > > actually saves. > > > > > > Unless unusual fields are required in the returned > information, how > > > about using PyPI as the information store? 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