On 22Nov2020 13:22, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote: >On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 12:56:01PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: >> On 21Nov2020 17:54, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >The range of people who (a) cannot install from PyPI and can only use >> >the stdlib, and (b) cannot deploy with a .pyz and must deploy an .exe, >> >is extremely narrow. In what situation do you have to make a native >> >executable but cannot get a tool from PyPI to make one? >> >> Well, for my personal example, an in house tool for an in house task, >> the users _can_ copy a Mac .app into their Applications folder. I _do >> not_ and would not expect them to (likely choice): >> - install macports or homebrew >> - install python >> - install source code and libraries (needed PyQt) >> >> They're end users; some are (variously) technical and some aren't, but >> none should need to be technical. I want them to copy an app to a new >> machine and be happy - drag'n'drop a single thing. > >Sure, but why does PyInstaller have to be in the std lib for you to >support this use-case?
It doesn't. I'm not arguing for that; I'm at least slightly against it in fact. I'm _still_ arguing against Chris' apparent position that wanting to make a standalone bundle is pretty much a null situation. I think I've let his "attractive nuisance" description get under my skin. Still, as you say: >That was Chris' question: >Under what circumstances does somebody have to make a native >application >but **cannot use one of the tools on PyPI to do it**? >(Or the freeze tool.) It is true that I, at least, am not in that position: needing to make a standalone app and unable to access PyPI to get tools to build it. I may have misconstrued Chris to mean my users rather than myself. (His full question is still quoted at the top of this message for reference.) And on that basis I withdraw my example. But it definitely applies to my users: thier install process should be a trivial copy-this-app experience. That does require a complete bundle. Cheers, Cameron Simpson <c...@cskk.id.au> _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/OXEDVWJTUFHGZKHDGTILD5K4LWCB3XCR/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
