On 11/26/20 11:45 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 7:45 PM MRAB <pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com <mailto:pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com>> wrote:

    > It's not discarded, it's still referenced by d in the outer scope.
    >
    No, it's not any more, and that's the point. It was _moved_ into the
    function, and although the function returned it, it was discarded
    because the caller didn't bind it to keep hold of it.


Sounds like one of you is describing current semantics and the other is explaining the proposed new semantics. :-)


Yes, I see that now.  As Chris points out elsewhere in the thread, this proposal would have the type annotations change the actual behavior of the code.  Has this been done before?  It also seems that it has to change the behavior of the caller of the function, when the compiler won't have access to the definition of the function.  This proposal seems to run counter to a number of fundamental Python dynamics.

--Ned.

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