On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:56:18 -0500
Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com>
wrote:
> On 11/27/20 8:32 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 07:32:17 -0500
> > 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com
> > wrote:  
> >> I come from old(er) school (1980s, 1990s) embedded systems, and who
> >> "owns" a particular mutable data structure and how/where it gets mutated
> >> always came up long before we wrote any code.  No, I'm not claiming that
> >> pre-ansi C and assembler are more productive or less runtime error prone
> >> than newer languages, but is this feature only necessary because
> >> "modern" software development no longer includes a design phase or
> >> adequate documentation?  
> > "Modern" software development is just like older software development
> > in that regard: sometimes it includes a design phase and/or adequate
> > (i.e. sufficiently precise) documentation, sometimes it doesn't.
> >  
> >> Memory management implementation details is a long way from executable
> >> pseudo code.  (30 years is a long time, too.)  
> > This isn't really about memory management, though.  
> 
> 
> Maybe it would help to clarify what it *is* about.  The original 
> proposal makes no mention of the problem being solved.

Perhaps you could start by reading other messages posted by Serhiy and I
in this thread, for example.  I realize that trying to avoid redundant
discussions is against the ethics and traditions of python-ideas, but
still.

Regards

Antoine.

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