Hello,

On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 17:26:00 -0500
David Mertz <me...@gnosis.cx> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 5:20 AM Paul Sokolovsky
> 
> > So, if anything, we're re-tracing JavaScript steps. We're in dire
> > need of const'ness in the language.  
> 
> 
> Somehow I've used Python for 22 years without experiencing that
> direness.
> 
> I've taught thousands of students already experienced in other
> languages (most with constants) without anyone noting the need). I've
> been *read* by MILLIONS of readers using Python without mentioning
> the need to me.

I suspect someone will eventually write a drama along the lines of
"Best-kept Secret from the Python Community", second only to Oedipus
Rex.

Perhaps, you were talking to the wrong people? Perhaps you should teach
students like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2IQP8iug3c ? That guy
reached only 0.3M, not millions like you, but spread the word that
Python is slow.

And the const is the cheapest way to make Python a tad faster (for
sure open up possibilities for further optimizations), which should be
accessible even to such an old clumsy behemoth as CPython.
(Alternative, recently quoted, is to spend $1+M on that.
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-...@python.org/message/RDXLCH22T2EZDRCBM6ZYYIUTBWQVVVWH/)

And I'm mentioning just that usecase with a bow to my fixation on
Python JITting, other people already mentioned more.   

> Somehow "dire" doesn't strike me as the right word.... Maybe you were
> looking for "conceivably useful in niche cases."?

Perhaps we can bargain on "really useful in many cases".


-- 
Best regards,
 Paul                          mailto:pmis...@gmail.com
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