Another example, is a cash point (ATM) won't give you your money until you
take your card

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021, 09:28 Stephen J. Turnbull, <
turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:

> Ethan Furman writes:
>
>  > Isn't that javascript?  Javascript idioms are not (necessarily)
>  > Python idioms.
>
> True, but unless there is (preferably) a Python idiom or one from
> another language we borrow from at least somewhat frequently, why not
> adopt the Javascript idiom?
>
> Note: I don't think you were arguing *against* this idiom, just
> querying the relevance.
>
> I did question the OP's "value you need, value you want"
> characterization.  It's not obvious to me you can decide that for the
> caller.
>
>
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