In dataclasses, support for __slots__ is being added in 3.10. Adding optional 
support for iteration would be easy. 

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Eric V. Smith

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Paul Bryan <pbr...@anode.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm with you; since dataclasses were introduced, namedtuple has not see any 
> use from me, though none of my uses have demanded ultra-high efficiency 
> either.
> 
> I wonder how many users are currently relying on namedtuple __getitem__ 
> semantics though. that's functionality dataclasses do not (currently) have.
> 
> Random thought I don't know the answer to: Any reason __slots__ can't be used 
> on a dataclass to improve efficiency?
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 2021-07-28 at 22:22 +0000, pa...@lexyr.com wrote:
>> [Migrating the discussion from https://bugs.python.org/issue44768.]
>> 
>> PEP 20 says:
>> 
>>> There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
>> 
>> There are two ways to create a simple named type to store data: 
>> collections.namedtuple and dataclasses.dataclass. I propose deprecating 
>> namedtuple.
>> 
>> As far as the interface is concerned, the namedtuple is almost completely 
>> equivalent to a frozen dataclass - with some iterability syntactic sugar 
>> thrown in. I don't think there are use cases for namedtuple that would not 
>> be trivial to rewrite with dataclasses.
>> 
>> As far as the implementation is concerned, the namedtuple is faster. If 
>> efficiency is a concern, why do we make our users decide? We can choose the 
>> most efficient one on the library's end. C++ does something similar with 
>> bool vectors - the library has a special case for where it would be more 
>> optimal to use a different data structure underneath.
>> 
>> 
>> TL;DR: If dataclass is so good, why keep namedtuple around?
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