On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 00:56 Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 11:23:00PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>
> > > Is there no room for making it easier to do this with less invasive
> > > changes to the stdlib, or are Steven d'A's "heroic measures in an
> > > import hook" the right way to go?
> > >
> > > Other Steve
> >
> >
> > There’s room for that, but that’s not what’s being proposed (yet :-).
>
> I'm confused. My reading of the pre-PEP is that that is precisely what
> it is proposing: changing the way assert works so that the value of each
> sub-expression is available to be displayed to the user. Presumably any
> framework or library would be able to access that information.
>
> Have I missed something? I don't see anything in the proposal about
> creating new stdlib frameworks or changing unittest.


But others were. Anyway, I admit that I didn’t read the PRP carefully
enough and was confused about what it proposes.

My next responses:

- The name “Power Assertions” is terrible. It sounds like a Microsoft
product. :-)

- I was envisioning something that provides an API that would allow a test
framework to do what pytest does; not a behavior chance to the assert
statement by default.

- Please, please collaborate with the pytest developers on the design.

—Guido
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--Guido (mobile)
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