On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 8:32 PM Finn Mason <finnjavie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It would be a good idea to add something like appdirs to the stdlib. Maybe > something like os.path.userdata() (as an example name). I have four > questions: > > 1. What should the functions be called, and module should they go in? I > personally say os.path module, with names such as userdata() for > consistency with the rest of the os module. > > 2. Should the functions take the app name and author, or just return the > base path, e.g. ~/. local/share? The latter makes more sense to me if I had > to pick one, but my personal recommendation would be to make the name and > author optional arguments, so userdata() returned (on Linux) > ~/.local/share, but userdata(appname="foo") returned ~/.local/share/foo. > This seems to be the behavior of the appdirs functions. > > 3. Should we include something like the AppDirs class, which is a wrapper > of sorts for the functions? I personally say no, it's not necessary or > important. > > 4. Should this also be added to pathlib? I say definitely, probably in the > form of class constructors (e.g. Path.user_data()). > Tildes would be expanded, of course. (I forgot to mention that.) -- Finn (Mobile) -- > Finn (Mobile) > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 5:35 PM Christopher Barker <python...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 4:29 PM Christopher Barker <python...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 2:57 PM Neil Girdhar <mistersh...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 for appdirs. It's a shame that more projects don't yet use it. >>>> >>> >> I agree -- I've wanted something like that for years in the stdlib. >> >> wxPython has wx.StandardPaths -- and it's really handy. But a wrapper >> around a C++ version, so not useful outside of wx. >> >> -CHB >> >> >>> >>>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 9:03:07 AM UTC-5 Matt del Valle >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There is appdirs which does precisely what you're looking for: >>>>> >>>>> https://pypi.org/project/appdirs/ >>>>> >>>>> That said, it does seem to be a core bit of functionality that would >>>>> be nice to have in the os and pathlib modules without needing an external >>>>> dependency. I'm not going to weigh in on the pros/cons of adding it to the >>>>> stdlib, I'll leave that to others who I'm sure will have strong opinions >>>>> on >>>>> the matter :) >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 1:47 PM JGoutin via Python-ideas < >>>>> python...@python.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> The idea is to add 3 functions to get "config", "data" and "cache" >>>>>> directories that are commonly used to store application files in user >>>>>> home >>>>>> / system. >>>>>> >>>>>> This look very straightforward to get theses directories path, but in >>>>>> practices it depends on many factors like OS, environnement variables, >>>>>> user >>>>>> or system dir. >>>>>> >>>>>> For instance, with the "config" directory: >>>>>> * Linux, user: os.path.join(os.getenv("XDG_CONFIG_HOME", >>>>>> os.path.expanduser("~/.config")), app_name) >>>>>> * Linux, system: os.path.join("/etc", app_name) >>>>>> * Windows, user: os.path.join(os.path.expandvars("%APPDATA%"), >>>>>> app_name) >>>>>> * Windows, system: >>>>>> os.path.join(os.path.expandvars("%CSIDL_COMMON_APPDATA%"), app_name) >>>>>> >>>>>> For linux, the full spec is here: >>>>>> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html >>>>>> >>>>>> I see many applications that just use "~/.app_name" to not have to >>>>>> handle theses cases. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The functions prototypes may look like and may be added to "shutil" >>>>>> (or "os.path" ?): >>>>>> >>>>>> def getcachedir(app_name: str=None, system: bool=False): >>>>>> >>>>>> With >>>>>> * app_name: The application name >>>>>> * system: If the required directory is the systemd directory or user >>>>>> direcotry. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This may also be implemented as an external library, but I am not >>>>>> sure I would like add add a dependency to my projects "just for this". >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I can implement this if people are interested with this feature. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Python-ideas mailing list -- python...@python.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to python-id...@python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ >>>>>> Message archived at >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python...@python.org/message/MHEWO4U6SBDU7OU3JH4A62EWCANDM7I2/ >>>>>> <https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/MHEWO4U6SBDU7OU3JH4A62EWCANDM7I2/> >>>>>> Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ >>>> Message archived at >>>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/IV3W2LRZ2KRYERYOYOGYWLI4TO7NXUHI/ >>>> Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher Barker, PhD (Chris) >>> >>> Python Language Consulting >>> - Teaching >>> - Scientific Software Development >>> - Desktop GUI and Web Development >>> - wxPython, numpy, scipy, Cython >>> >> >> >> -- >> Christopher Barker, PhD (Chris) >> >> Python Language Consulting >> - Teaching >> - Scientific Software Development >> - Desktop GUI and Web Development >> - wxPython, numpy, scipy, Cython >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ >> Message archived at >> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/PNFWSYYXR5MXVXWOKEV2B26TABVZYL6A/ >> Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >> >
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