Hao Hu writes:
 > On 12/18/21 08:44, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 > > Hao Hu writes:

 > >   > >> For instance, if we create a caching programming interface that
 > >   > >> relies on a distributed kv store,
 > >
 > > I would be very suspicious of using Python's hash builtin for such a
 > > purpose.  The Python hash functions are very carefully tuned for high
 > > performance in one application only: equality testing in Python,
 > > especially for dicts.  [...]
 > 
 > It is pretty much the same use case as python's dictionary though, the 
 > goal is just to generalize it to use with a distributed kv store. 

Sure, you know that because it's your application.  But I don't know
that, and it's only an example you give to justify a change to
Python.  The burden on you is not to argue that it works in one
application; it's to argue that it works broadly enough to be worth
changing a lot stuff in Python, imposing a change burden on any
project that implements __hash__ for any of its classes, and for
anybody who supports both pre- and post-change version of Python, they
need to support both __hash__(object) and __hash__(object, salt)
(probably trivial, just def __hash__(self, salt=None):, but I haven't
thought about it).

 > Another big advantage is that it is more user friendly to apply
 > *hash* directly on a type.

Sure, that was the whole point of proposing it and nobody denies it.
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