On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 22:19, malmiteria <martin.mi...@ensc.fr> wrote:

> What i am saying is that *if* super(A, self) *were* to call A's method, that 
> would be a simpler API.

I understand that you're specifically responding to Chris, but to be
honest, this is the first time you've explicitly stated this (unless
it was previously lost in a sea of words somewhere). So I'd like to
respond.

If you're suggesting *changing* super's behaviour like this, you have
to explain how you expect to handle the (quite possibly literally)
millions of lines of code that would be broken by making such a
change. So far, all you've offered is that "it would be a simpler API"
and had no-one agree with you that this is the case. That's not even
remotely close to being sufficient to make such a drastic change.

> If you understand that this is my proposal, and not my understanding of 
> today's super, then for the love of god, address my proposal.

If that *is* your proposal, then just drop it. You seem incapable of
presenting a case that will justify such a massive breakage, so you're
just wasting everyone's time making them read your huge emails.

Paul
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