On Sun, Jul 9, 2023, 23:35 Christopher Barker <python...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 8:37 AM James Addison via Python-ideas <
> python-ideas@python.org> wrote:
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>> ISTM the primary use cases advanced here have been for "naive" users.
>>>> Likely they won't be in a position to decide whether they trust Guido
>>>> van Rossum or Egg Rando more.
>>>
>>>
> There are 718,155 users on PyPi -- I can't imagine that trying to figure
> out which of those hundreds of thousands of users you trust for
> reviews would be at all helpful -- it simply doesn't scale.
>

The page https://levien.com/free/tmetric-HOWTO.html has some thoughts on
how to build a scalable, resilient trust network based on user ratings; I
can't guarantee that it'll change your opinion, though!

I suppose if my fantasy "curated" site existed, and the curation group
> were of a manageable size, then you could do that, but the point of having
> a modest number of curators is that you can already trust them ;-)
>
> Honestly, I'd be more likely to go with "I can assume that projects that
>>> are dependencies of other projects that I already know are good quality,
>>> are themselves good quality". Which excludes people from the
>>> equation altogether,
>>>
>>
> I there are a number of metrics that could be used -- and "how many
> projects" use this projecct as a dependency" is a good one. -- "which"
> projects would be even stronger. And there are others.
>
> Anything like that it can be gamed, but I"m not sure that's as huge a
> problem as it might be -- what is the incentive to game this system? this
> is all open source, no one's making money, and frankly, having a lot of
> users can be a burden as well!
>
> Sure, many of us would really like a lot of people to use our code, but
> the incentives to cheat to get more users really aren't that strong. -- at
> least if. you can filter out the malware in some other way.
>
> -CHB
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>> but which falls apart when I'm looking for a library in a new area.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>
>> Cautious +1, since PageRank did pretty well for a good stint in a
>> somewhat analogous environment.
>>
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