Fredrik Lundh wrote: > > well, I think I prefer the "are you sure you exist?" trolls over the "python > sucks > and you are all a bunch of clueless something something" and "this thing is > broken > beyond repair and you are all a bunch of clueless something something" trolls.
I can see where the "trolling" is coming from, though. If you read various "industry newspapers" you often see stories about there being a huge demand for Java or .NET developers, whereas Python barely gets a mention. One example I read recently [1] described how the marketplace in Oslo, Norway is currently short of 300-500 Java developers, but if you look beneath the surface, knowing that there are lots of Java developers out there looking for work, a gulf between the story and the facts emerges: the employers who vocally complain about a lack of talent in the marketplace are typically either those who want to promote their credentials in some realm ("we're the experts on Java and can't do enough of it"), those who want to poach employees from their competitors (a job advertisement for the in-crowd), those who only want to hire cheap, recently graduated people and are just railing against the supposed injustice of paying the market rate, or just those who aren't good at recruiting people (if, as the article says, there's no point in advertising jobs on high traffic job sites, even though many companies have recruiters doing most of the legwork, one has to wonder how competent the recruiters are, and what the employers think they're paying for). So, from the perspective of some person reading mainstream news sources, talking to recruiters, reading job adverts, Python doesn't appear that much. But one has to question what underlying interests are at work in continually hyping the demand for other technologies, and if personal networks are more effective at getting people work, whether the old-school job classifieds market (on the Internet and otherwise) is becoming a thing of the past. Paul [1] http://www.idg.no/karriere/karrierenyheter/article15027.ece -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list