On 9 Nov 2006 22:48:10 -0800, "John Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Upon closer look, the walkthrough did say: > >*************************** >from PythonCard import model > >Change that so it says: > >from PythonCard import dialog, model > >Save the code. >*************************** > >So, it works. Thanks for looking into it. It sounds like either it has been fixed in the newer version -- or I didn't do something correctly. It's been a long time, and I was just going by the notes I made back then. > > > >John Henry wrote: >> Bill Maxwell wrote: >> > On 8 Nov 2006 11:49:07 -0800, "John Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >John Salerno wrote: >> > >> Dan Lenski wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > So, is there another toolkit I should be looking at? >> > >> >> > >> I highly recommend wxPython. It's very mature, full-featured, and >> > >> portable, and fairly easy to learn as well. I can't really compare it to >> > >> other toolkits (not having used any of them, except Tkinter), but it's >> > >> definitely one of the most popular and well-supported ones out there. >> > >> >> > >> http://www.wxpython.org/ >> > > >> > >I highly recommend that you try PythonCard (which sits on top of >> > >wxPython). You can get productive very very quickly. Take a look at: >> > > >> > >http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/walkthrough1.html >> > >> > >> > I took a brief look at PythonCard almost a year ago and got discouraged >> > by what I found, so I stopped looking at it. I've inserted my notes >> > from back then, below. Does anybody know if these things have been >> > fixed in the latest release? >> > >> > Bill >> > >> > >> > ===================================================================== >> > My notes from Fri Dec-23-2005: >> > >> > This is a list of gripes I have while trying to learn about PythonCard. >> > I'm trying to investigate various GUI builders for Python, and >> > PythonCard looks promising, but a lot of things are getting in the way. >> > >> > I installed yesterday, using this installer: >> > PythonCard-0.8.1.FIXED.win32.exe >> > >> > A) The very first example in the tutorial is wrong! >> > >> > On this page: http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/documentation.html >> > When you follow this link to try something for the very first time: >> > >> > Getting Started in PythonCard by Dan Shafer: >> > http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/walkthrough1.html >> > >> > You quickly see that the minimal.py example doesn't even contain >> > this line, even though the tutorial refers to it: >> > >> >> I am not sure which one you are referring to but in the >> PythonCard\samples\minimal, you will find a minimal.py that says: >> >> #!/usr/bin/python >> >> """ >> __version__ = "$Revision: 1.8 $" >> __date__ = "$Date: 2005/12/17 15:20:02 $" >> """ >> >> from PythonCard import model >> >> >> class Minimal(model.Background): >> def on_menuFileAbout_select(self, event): >> pass >> >> if __name__ == '__main__': >> app = model.Application(Minimal) >> app.MainLoop() >> >> >> >> > def on_menuFileAbout_select(self, event): >> > >> > And, of course, if you replace the word "pass" with this, as >> > instructed: >> > >> > result = dialog.alertDialog(self, 'It works!', 'Showing Off') >> > >> > it won't run, because the existing "pass" line isn't inside a def >> > inside of a class. >> > >> >> No, it didn't work because the author forgot to mention that you have >> to do a: >> >> from PythonCard import model, dialog >> >> instead of just: >> >> from PythonCard import model >> >> I just tried it and it works. >> >> > >> > B) Is the Notebook widget really supported? >> > >> > In the installed file "changelog.txt" (gets installed as part of >> > PythonCard installation), it says: >> > >> > "added Notebook component, PageBackground, and testNotebook >> > sample" >> > >> > But, the testNotebook sample is nowhere to be found. >> > >> >> I haven't come across a need to use Notebook and so I can not say for >> sure. Looking at notebook.py, it appears to be just a simple wrapper >> on top of the wxWindow notebook. I would encourage you to post a >> message to the mailing list and ask there. >> >> >> > I looked lots of places, including the main SourceForge web site, >> > and on the wiki, here: >> > >> > http://wiki.wxpython.org/index.cgi/PythonCard >> > >> > Both the main website and the wiki seem way out of date, and the >> > latest dates I could find on both of them are sometime in 2004. >> > >> >> Yes, sometime around 2004, the website updating stopped. Fortunately, >> development didn't. There are quite a number of new things since then: >> new resource editor (now call layout Editor, standalone exe creator, >> and so forth). I even learn that a new sizer handler is in the work. >> >> Not saying that there are 10 programmers working 7/24 on it. It *is* >> an Open Source project nevertheless. Nobody gets paid for doing it. >> But there are development work going on. >> >> >> > Finally, by following the mailing list archive link on the main >> > website, I managed to find a reference to the notebook component on the >> > ASPN site, where some guy named Brian wonders about the same thing as >> > me, concerning the availability of the notebook component: >> > >> > http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/pythoncard/2536825 >> > >> > and, that message led me here: >> > >> > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pythoncard/1060 >> > >> > where Kevin Altis admits that he forgot to include it in the 0.8.1 >> > release! At least he provides a way to download it separately. But, >> > gheesh, this is pretty poor for a new user. I was interested in using >> > the notebook component right away, because I looked at the wxGlade >> > tutorial before looking at PythonPage, and they use the notebook >> > component in their example (and I decided I really want to use the >> > component). >> > >> > To add insult to injury, after you download the zip file with the >> > testNotebook stuff, the readme file says this: >> > >> > "Until we have a Notebook integrated into some of the other >> > samples or tools this will serve as a basic test app, but I don't expect >> > to include it in releases." >> > >> >> >> As with all Open Source projects, your mileage differs. PythonCard >> does what *I* need to get done - and allowed me to get it done in a >> *hurry*. May be you really need Notebook and may be it's true that >> Notebook really doesn't work, I don't know. But if you managed to get >> it working, write it up and get it included. That's what Open Source >> Projects are all about. >> >> >> > C) Are the websites being maintained? >> >> >> It appears that the maintainer of the web site stopped updating it >> since late 2004. I don't know why. May be he's been busy. May be he >> got mad. I don't know. All I know is that I have been very >> productive with what I need to get done (and earned a happy living with >> the code I created) and I am very grateful to the people that worked on >> it - past and present. >> >> I am not a "professional programmer" and so I probably can't contribute >> to the development effort itself. However, I've gotten pretty good in >> using most of the package (other then Notebook, I admit). So, if you >> have any specific questions, please post it to the PythonCard list and >> I'll try to help if I can. >> >> Cheers. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
