On Jun 22, 3:47 pm, Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it requires years of mastery, it is clunky
Well, now you keep harping on this, but it's just not true. I use vim myself, but for purposes of this argument it doesn't matter. If you take the Vim tutorial and use the help (which appears in a split window anytime you want it), you can use Vim like any other text editor within a day or so, especially if you use Cream, which is set up to hold your Windows hands and act like any other Windows text editor on the surface. But if you use Vim for YEARS you get better and faster and more efficient precisely BECAUSE of its arcane capabilities. If you are going to keep your hands on the keyboard where they belong, if you REALLY want to go fast, then there's no alternative to having complex key commands, which become second nature over time, and take the place of repetitive, totally inefficient mousing around. You might enjoy this. Especially the link to an old essay called "Interface Zen" http://tinyurl.com/2da3om rd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list