On Sep 16, 6:25?pm, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sep 16, 5:28?pm, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sep 17, 7:54 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> On Sep 16, 2:22?pm, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>>>> On Sep 16, 1:10?pm, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:46:34 -0700, GeorgeRXZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: > >>>>>>> Then Open the Notepad and type the following sentence, and save the > >>>>>>> file and close the notepad. Now reopen the file and you will find out > >>>>>>> that, Notepad is not able to save the following text line. > >>>>>>> Well you are speed > >>>>>>> This occurs not only with above sentence but any sentence that has > >>>>>>> 4 3 3 5 (sequence of characters: Well=4 you=3 are=3 speed=5) > >>>>>> I tried. I also opened the saved file in SciTE... > >>>>>> And the text WAS there... > >>>>>> It is Notepad that can not properly render what it, > >>>>>> itself, saved. > >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mensanator\My Documents>type huh.txt > >>>>> Well you are speed > >>>>> Yes, file was saved correctly. > >>>>> But reopening it shows 9 unprintable characters. > >>>>> If I copy those to a new file (huh1.txt): > >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mensanator\My Documents>type huh1.txt > >>>>> ????????? > >>>>> But wait...the new file is 20 characters, not 9. > >>>>> 09/16/2007 01:44 PM 18 huh.txt > >>>>> 09/16/2007 01:54 PM 20 huh1.txt > >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mensanator\My Documents>dump huh.txt > >>>>> huh.txt: > >>>>> 00000000 5765 6c6c 2079 6f75 2061 7265 2073 7065 Well you are spe > >>>>> 00000010 6564 ed > >>>>> Here's what it's actually doing: > >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mensanator\My Documents>dump huh1.txt > >>>>> huh1.txt: > >>>>> 00000000 fffe 5765 6c6c 2079 6f75 2061 7265 2073 .~Well you are s > >>>>> 00000010 7065 6564 peed > >>>> One word: Unicode. > >>>> The "open" and "save" dialogs allow you to specify an encoding. > >>> And the encoding specified was ANSI. > >>>> If you > >>>> specify Unicode the you will get what you see above. > >>> And if you specify ANSI _before_ you click the file name, > >>> the specification switches to Unicode and has to then > >>> be manually switched back to ANSI. > >>>> If you specify ANSI > >>>> you will get the text you entered. > >>> It's still a bug in the "open" dialog. > >> It's more like a bug/feature in its encoding detector. > > > It is NOT a feature. If I save something as ANSI, > > there is no excuse for it not to re-open in ANSI. > > >> I can get it to > >> switch to Unicode only if there's an even number of characters AND the > >> line is NOT terminated by CRLF -- add/remove one alpha character, or > >> hit the enter key at the end of the line, and it won't detect it as > >> Unicode when you open it again. > > >> You only get the BOM (0xfffe) if you are silly enough to save it while > >> it's open in Unicode mode. > > > That was a test. I wasn't so stupid as to save > > to the original file, but to make a copy. > > >>>> By the way, this has precisely what to do with Python? > >>> I've been known to use Notepad to create Python > >>> source code. > >> Your source code would have to be trivially short to trigger the > >> strange behaviour. > > > Makes you wonder what other edge cases aren't > > handled properly. > > > Makes you wonder why Microsoft doesn't employ > > professional programmers. > > Makes *me* wonder why you haven't got better things to do with your time.
It's Sunday. > > regards > Steve > -- > Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 > Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://www.holdenweb.com > Skype: holdenweb http://del.icio.us/steve.holden > > Sorry, the dog ate my .sigline- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
