On Apr 30, 5:06 am, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallöchen! > > SL writes: > > "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> En Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:19:22 -0300, SL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: And > >> that's a very reasonable place to search; I think chr and ord are > >> builtin functions (and not str methods) just by an historical > >> accident. (Or is there any other reason? what's wrong with > >> "a".ord() or str.from_ordinal(65))? > > > yes when you know other OO languages you expect this. Anyone know > > why builtins were chosen? Just curious > > *Maybe* for aesthetical reasons. I find ord(c) more pleasent for > the eye. YMMV. > > The biggest ugliness though is ",".join(). No idea why this should > be better than join(list, separator=" ").
Seconded. While we're at it, a third optional 'encode=str' argument should be added, to the effect of: def join(iterable, sep=' ', encode=str): return sep.join(encode(x) for x in iterable) I can't count the times I've been bitten by TypeErrors raised on ','.join(s) if s contains non-string objects; having to do ','.join(map(str,s)) or ','.join(str(x) for x in s) gets old fast. "Explicit is better than implicit" unless there is an obvious default. George -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list