On May 17, 9:22 pm, castironpi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 17, 5:35 am, Ivan Illarionov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 17 May 2008 02:57:08 -0700, castironpi wrote: > > > Full day later, I think it, to emphasize state, would prioritize > > > context. The reason for the huge ramble was, believe it or not, > > > namespace conflict... as though any other states around here might nose > > > in. And thanks to 'inhahe' for coming back with the question. ...Which > > > would explain next move to 'prioritize context'. Context is a high > > > priority for people. > > > > I'm proposing to start on one on a computer. The first things a > > > computer 'knows' are the boot, keyboard, & mouse. Yet on another scale, > > > the first things it knows are BIOS, file system, and OS. On still > > > another, the only thing it knows are interruptions. Knowledge is > > > important to context. (The scales are ram on disk on, ram on disk off, > > > and ram off, which may tell of the currency they and their power are > > > bought with. Thence, we should be getting different values for lengths > > > of time.) > > > > (Furthermore, we're all on different longitudes -and- latitudes.) > > > > Context comes from motion, perception, and composite perception > > > (reperception e.a.o. memory). There is some reason to believe that > > > motion and sight are different senses, perhaps so with stationary sound > > > (gatcha) and mobile sound too. Do you go deaf of a tone after prolonged > > > duration? That makes computers valuable commodities*: they have a > > > symbolic interface, which no other unlive objects have. They have both > > > mouse and keyboard. > > > > *I'm sure there is a precision to wants: what magnitude of what types of > > > action a person wants from a day and for a time-- what energy states > > > they go to and from (note phone on come to and come from.) > > > > Therefore, context should originate in mouse and keyboard. > > > > Humans have symbolic know-how: knowledge of how to convey intent > > > digitally, though it may be there is no interpolation of 'intent per > > > mouse-or-key', even though people are prone to empathize with faces. > > > However, if you start with a 'me' and a 'no', you can get pretty > > > logical. > > > > Intent per mouse-and-key isn't necessarily scalar, three-dimensional, or > > > rationally dimensional (?), though they do have magnitudes per mass and > > > volume. The contingent of 'rationally dimensional' is having or > > > beknowing/benouncing an orthonormal basis. Incidentally, '''orthography > > > of a language specifies the correct way of using a specific writing > > > system to write the language. .. Orthography is derived from Greek ὀρθός > > > orthós ("correct") and γράφειν gráphein ("to write").''' - wikipedia. > > > > Further incidentally, context and state may have more important in > > > common than priority and price: privacy and safety are involved ex > > > hypothesi. Incidentally = ... > > > > It is not clear that the first (cheapest best) human-computer language > > > is a computer language, though if two were orthonormal in comparison to > > > life, Python's fine. Not my first. > > > > In privacy concerns, it is not clear that duals aren't primitives to > > > humans. What's a brain primitive? Lol: what is a primitive brain? > > > > On May 16, 10:58 am, "inhahe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I'm not an expert in this but what does it mean to emphasize state? It > > >> seems the opposite of that would be a) functional programming, and b) > > >> passing parameters instead of using global or relatively local > > >> variables. And maybe c) coroutines (generators as implemented in > > >> Python), although perhaps coroutines could be said to emphasize state > > >> inasmuch as they go out of their way to capture, objectify and reuse it > > >> (Stackless' microthreads, even moreso). And Python seems to be > > >> well-noted for implementing some functional programming methodology, > > >> and as for passing parameters it's just as object-oriented as the rest > > >> of them. > > > >> But as I said, I'm not an expert, so let me know if I've gone astray.. > > > >> > I have a proposition to ask you all: Python emphasizes state. Is it > > >> > true?- Hide quoted text - > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Castironpi, > > > I love you! You remind me of all the kittens and puuppies I had when I > > was a child. > > > I #define this. Hope your database could give us something funny again. > > > -- Ivan- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I have to talk about crossing threats. But talking about threads is > like talking, and people talk about food. What are some threats to be > scared of? What about threads to be thunder?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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