On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:19:33 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: >> I disagree. These say exactly what has happened and tell me what I >> want to know, which is that something new has been released, which is >> to say, made available for download. > > Which is entirely different from the “release” implicit in e.g. “release > candidate”, hence they don't say what they appear to say. Since the > latter term is unlikely to change, I'm asking that the announcements > don't unnecessarily overload the meaning of “release”.
I've always hated the term "release candidate". It's been released, it is a release. A release candidate is something which may be released, but hasn't yet been chosen. > > I disagree. [ANN] could mean anything: planned? canceled? needs help? > > ("Oh, 'released', why didn't you say so?") > > As above, “released” is a poor term for this, since it *already* has > connotations of “all done, out the door, ready to go” as evidenced > in “release candidate” (not released, but we think it could be) and > the distinction of the triumphant announcements that accompany > *actual* releases. I think you have it completely backwards. It's quite possible, even sensible, to release a draft paper, release an experimental prototype, or release an alpha version of software. I don't agree that "release" has any connotations of "all done" at all. Being released and being ready for release are orthogonal concepts: patients can be released from hospital before they are ready, and software can be released before it is in a fit state for production. I don't know how some people have started using "released" to mean "production-ready", but it makes no sense to me and I wish they would stop. I think it is a poorly thought-out practice and it leads to people being confused when inaccurately titled "pre-release" versions are released. [...] > Whatever is chosen, please reserve “RELEASED” for the > commonly-expected meaning of something akin to “no longer in > intensive development or bug-hunting mode, now ready to go out on its > own and be used with abandon by the masses”. Commonly expected by who? That's certainly not any meaning of "released" in any dictionary I know of. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list