On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 10:47 -0700, Aahz wrote: > In article <mailman.2787.1238174158.11746.python-l...@python.org>, > andrew cooke <and...@acooke.org> wrote: > >Aahz wrote: > >> > >> Excuse me? What decline of this newsgroup? > > > >Hmmm. It's hard to respond to this without implicitly criticising others > >here, which wasn't my point at all. But my personal impression is that > >over the years various people who used to post here now stay pretty firmly > >in the dev group, while others seem to have disappeared more or less > >completely <wink>. > > Well, yes, but that's simply the nature of online fora (I originally > wrote "nature of Usenet", but I think it's more general than that). From > my POV, if you're going to call it a "decline", you need to provide more > evidence than some people leaving and others arriving. I think that the > sheer volume and quality of posts to c.l.py is evidence that c.l.py is > not declining.
I agree. If the argument is simply that some devs no longer hang here but do on -dev than that's not declining to me, especially as the amount of traffic on -dev increases. That's ordinary. Same for people coming and going. For me declining means the rate of (non-spam) posts is steadily dropping over time. If you look at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/ it doesn't make it clear that there is any sort of decline. 1999-04: 1708 1999-05: 2204 1999-06: 2390 1999-07: 2387 1999-08: 2149 1999-09: 2014 1999-10: 2060 1999-11: 1911 1999-12: 2304 2000-01: 2678 2000-02: 4000 2000-03: 3782 2000-04: 3236 2000-05: 4283 2000-06: 4628 2000-07: 4189 2000-08: 4275 2000-09: 3961 2000-10: 3834 2000-11: 2360 2000-12: 3116 2001-01: 4212 2001-02: 3892 2001-03: 4494 2001-04: 4731 2001-05: 5498 2001-06: 4936 2001-07: 6518 2001-08: 5247 2001-09: 3728 2001-10: 3687 2001-11: 4575 2001-12: 4472 2002-01: 5602 2002-02: 5272 2002-03: 5309 2002-04: 5984 2002-05: 5331 2002-06: 4229 2002-07: 4840 2002-08: 4948 2002-09: 4205 2002-10: 3327 2002-11: 4355 2002-12: 4108 2003-01: 6225 2003-02: 7758 2003-03: 5041 2003-04: 5025 2003-05: 5012 2003-06: 4976 2003-07: 4937 2003-08: 5703 2003-09: 4320 2003-10: 6396 2003-11: 5059 2003-12: 3930 2004-01: 4059 2004-02: 4316 2004-03: 5178 2004-04: 4358 2004-05: 3926 2004-06: 4255 2004-07: 4291 2004-08: 6275 2004-09: 5619 2004-10: 5251 2004-11: 4064 2004-12: 5295 2005-01: 5394 2005-02: 5278 2005-03: 5117 2005-04: 5098 2005-05: 4383 2005-06: 4635 2005-07: 4533 2005-08: 4546 2005-09: 4591 2005-10: 5580 2005-11: 5789 2005-12: 5119 2006-01: 15174 2006-02: 9838 2006-03: 11660 2006-04: 9776 2006-05: 10740 2006-06: 10156 2006-07: 9564 2006-08: 9806 2006-09: 10752 2006-10: 11348 2006-11: 9887 2006-12: 9186 2007-01: 7850 2007-02: 8184 2007-03: 8986 2007-04: 9965 2007-05: 10138 2007-06: 8444 2007-07: 7776 2007-08: 8544 2007-09: 8852 2007-10: 8548 2007-11: 6940 2007-12: 7454 2008-01: 8490 2008-02: 8572 2008-03: 8393 2008-04: 9508 2008-05: 10030 2008-06: 7500 2008-07: 8496 2008-08: 8198 2008-09: 7632 2008-10: 8332 2008-11: 7656 2008-12: 8694 2009-01: 9792 2009-02: 8033 2009-03: 3801 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list