On 2009-06-09 14:43, Terry Reedy wrote:
jon vs. python wrote:
Sorry, I didn't realize that you already proposed list comprehension.
There is some kind of asymmetry in several areas.I guess that's
somehow related to this post: http://www.zedshaw.com/blog/2009-05-29.html
The premise of this post by Zed the Insightful is that Python developers
are like a homegenous bunch of brain-damaged people. Instead, they are a
heterogenous group of volunteers, with rotating membership, at least
some of whom are aware of the various issues he mentions, but who are
constrained by both time limits and back compatibility.
The constraint of back compatibility was loosened for 3.0. What
contribution did Zed Shaw make toward improving the deficiencies he
noted when he had a chance? I do not remember any.
His excuse: "If I had the time I would try to fix this stuff, but I
realize that none of this will be fixed until there’s a cultural shift
in Python away from this habit of Neglect." This bogus excuse is Neglect
on his part. I strongly suspect, based on experience with other
Professional Critics / Ignored Prophets like him, that efforts to help
him contribute would be ignored or rejected.
Python and the stdlib is all open source. If he were to submit a patch,
and it were ignored or rejected for whatever reason, he could still
release it and register it on PyPI. I just checked and NONE of the 6710
submissions are his.
"There’s many more places where this kind of neglect is found, but these
days I just accept it and move on unless I seriously get pissed off. The
last tool I did this to was argparse and optparse which I replaced with
a much nicer system in Lamson."
Perhaps someday he will share his "improved" version and let others
judge and possibly use it.
To be fair:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zapps/
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/lamson/
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/vellum/
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/idiopidae
--
Robert Kern
"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
an underlying truth."
-- Umberto Eco
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