* Mark Lawrence:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
An extremely long thread dedicated to the notion that there are no
references in Python (which is blatantly false), coupled with personal
attacks on the one person arguing that there are. I could easily think
that you were having me on. Of course most anyone else who'd hold the
rational opinion would not join the battlefield, because it clearly
wasn't and isn't about convincing or educating anyone, but I feel that
follow-ups to my articles should be answered.
[snippety]
I'm intrigued by your comments over the last couple of weeks, as you
obviously know so much more about Python than people who have been
working on it and/or using it for the 20 odd years of the existence of
the language.
I don't.
On the other hand, it's a fallacy to think other people must be perfect.
The glossary of my Python 3.1.1 documentation defines
"Reference count:
The number of references to an object. [...]"
And so arguing against the existence of assignable references in Python would be
silly if it was a genuine technical discussion.
But I suspect that, in spite of my /first article's/ reference and frequent
later references to term definitions etc., many who posted in this thread
thought they were arguing against some other point of view, in the frenzy not
bothering to check out things or actually /read/ what they replied to.
So, as demonstrated, assuming that you were referring to people participating in
this thread, people who have used a language for 20 odd years can still be wrong
about something -- even when that something is utterly trivial.
Is it safe to assume that shortly you will be telling the
scientific community that Einstein was a complete bozo and that his
theory of relativity is crap, or that Stephen (Bob?) Hawking knows
nothing about the origins of the universe?
To put it another way, please stand up Alf, your voice is rather
muffled. And this isn't an ad hominem attack
Your response *is not* a personal attack?
Then why are you trying to imply all kinds of things about my person, and not
mentioning anything technical?
Is there anything in the above, about assignable references, that you really
think is on a par with relativity and requires Einstein's genius to understand?
, whatever the hell that
means, I (NOTE I ) personally wish you'd bugger off and leave the
bandwidth to people who genuinely want to discuss Python, computing
algorithms, whatever.
And please do NOT bother to reply. Your pathetic smileys and/or HTH
garbage cut no ice with me. I'm quite simply staggered that the Python
community as a whole have shown far more patience than I have, otherwise
you'd have been shot down in seriously bad flames days ago.
To you, Alf, get stuffed.
Are you sure that this is not a personal attack?
Just curious how you manage to think it couldn't be.
Cheers & hth., ;-)
- Alf
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