On Jul 5, 2:33 pm, Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu> wrote: > On 7/4/2010 9:20 PM, CM wrote: > > > On Jul 4, 7:14 pm, Terry Reedy<tjre...@udel.edu> wrote: > > > I think there's a good point to Python 3 put-downs (if I take put-down > > to mean generally reasonable criticism, which is what I've read here > > recently, and not trolling). And that is simply to register > > dissent. > > But dissent from what? > > Dissent from something obviously true? > (like 'Pythonx.y is useful to some people') > > Dissent from something obvious false, that no one has said? > (like 'Everyone should switch to Pythonx.y')
I was thinking more like dissent from something that is not obviously true or false, but a matter of debate, like some of the decisions behind Python 3 itself or how the transition is being managed. I got the sense that was about where the complaints lie. Some of the responses to those complaints were educational to me, so I didn't mind reading the exchanges. > > Any online group is an opportunity to register dissent in a way that > > is public, open, immediate, interactive, and will (probably) be > > preserved for historians to check. The fact is, some people have > > gripes with Python 3; they are letting it be known. > > I have several 'gripes' with 2.7 and it is currently useless to me. > Should I let them be known? How many times? Maybe you should; maybe it can be constructive criticism to developers or can jog someone to tell you something that you didn't know. How many times? Once, maybe twice. I agree one can overdo it, and maybe you've read more of the gripes than I have and it seems repetitive by now. > > If no one did, > > there could be no later time at which people could look back and know > > what the reaction was to its introduction--it would just be a blank. > > Aren't opinions that dissent from the prevailing ones important to > > register, whether one thinks they are right or wrong? > > Do you agree with me that the same criteria for gripe legitimacy should > be applied equally to all Python versions (even if we should disagree on > what those criteria should be)? I think so, sure. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
