On Dec 30, 7:54 pm, Katie T <ka...@coderstack.co.uk> wrote: > It's very hard to write a good gui framework, very very few people > have managed to do it well.
This is a very good point Katie. Creating a Python GUI is a huge undertaking and it will take much time to work out the bugs. A truly Pythonic GUI may be (i must admit) a pipe dream at this time. However i know that unless we start thinking about something new right now, it will be two, three, ten years down the road and we will be in the same situation. A lot of folks are probably thinking that since Python3000 is here that Python is up to current technology but i must differ with that opinion. Yes Python3 is much better than the 2.x line however Tkinter and IDLE are so dated and antique that Py3000 is a bit lackluster. Look, when Guido breathed life into Tkinter many years ago he did so with good intentions. I believe at that time (and for a while after) Tkinter was an asset to this community. However, now Tkinter just looks old and dumpy. Actually i would't mind keeping Tkinter and just tweaking it a bit but that is impossible! There will always be a glass ceiling between us and Tcl. We are confined from the Tcl folks and there is nothing we can do about. Tkinter has had a decade to become more relevant in the 21st century however the Tcl folks have failed to deliver. We cannot keep depending on outsiders, we must start the transition to something better. > There's not the expertise or the investment in the Python community to > build a strong Python GUI solution. From an educational viewpoint I > see that there could be value in having a pure Python solution, but in > terms of having a GUI solution that people will actually want to use > in their apps, I'm dubious that it's achievable. Also a good point Katie. But i think i have just a little more optimism than you :). I will conceded that if we cannot build a truly Pythonic GUI then we must at least pick a GUI that is up to date with Python3000. A good choice might be a limited version of wxPython in the stdlib and a 3rd party extension module available for download. We can use Tkinter as the template. All you need in the stdlib are the same widgets that are in Tkinter now. However unlike Tkinter, now a rich 3rd party module will be available. By doing this we will have removed the glass ceiling, and we did not have to re-invent the wheel to do it. What is your opinion (or anyone) on wxPython? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
