On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:33:40 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Thursday, June 13, 2013 3:18:57 PM UTC-5, Joshua Landau wrote: > >> [...] >> GUI is boring. I don't give a damn about that. If I had it my way, I'd >> never write any interfaces again (although designing them is fine). >> Console interaction is faster to do and it lets me do the stuff I >> *want* to do quicker. > > And are you willing to provide *proof* that the console is faster? Or is > this merely just your "opinion"? I would be ready and willing to compete > in a "Pepsi challenge" to disprove your claim if needed. For instance, > if i want to open a text file on my machine, i merely navigate to the > file via my file browser interface, using clicks along the way, and then > the final double click will open the text file using it's default > program. Are you telling me you can type the address faster (much less > remember the full path) than i can point and click?
If you can remember the full path in order to point and click, then I'm sure Joshua can remember the full path in order to type. And as far as speed goes, well, that depends. If you have three files in a directory, which in turn is next two three other subdirectories: C: +-- My Documents +-- My Pictures +-- My Videos +-- amazing movie.avi +-- amazing movie.mp4 +-- amazing movie - the sequel.avi then, yes, I'm sure you pointing-and-clicking will beat the command line to open "amazing movie - the sequal.avi". Trivial tasks like that play to the strengths of GUI interfaces. But, here's a slightly more challenging one: you have to navigate down through ten directories, not one. Each directory you navigate through has a dozen different subdirectories in it. When you finally reach the bottom- most directory, where your target video file is, there are two thousand other videos in the directory. (Some people's only filing system is "dump everything in one place".) None of the video thumbnails are cached, and your GUI will helpfully start loading thumbnails as you open the window and scroll around. Your "Pepsi Challenge", should you choose to accept it, it to find the target file, make a copy of the file in the same directory, rename the original, and then open it in an application but *not* the default application. Are you still confident that point-and-click will win this race? I'm not... I reckon this would be neck and neck, up to the point where your GUI starts loading thumbnails, then the command line will leave you in the dust. Even a weak, underpowered command line like command.com (or is it cmd.exe? I always forget which is which). On the other hand... if we don't know the name of the video, and have to recognise it by sight, then a GUI has the advantage. Here's another Pepsi Challenge for you: There is a certain directory on your system containing 50 text files, and 50 non-text files. You know the location of the directory. You want to locate all the text files in this directory containing the word "halibut", then replace the word "halibut" with "trout", but only if the file name begins with a vowel. Still confident that you can do this faster with a GUI than a command line interface? I reckon that a full-powered CLI like those available on Linux will just about have finished the entire job before you've even finished entering information into the GUI search dialog. But in any case, there are certainly strengths and weaknesses of both GUIs and text interfaces, and one should design programs around whichever is best for the needs of the program and the user. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list