My point was that the list problems in general seem to be related to usenet. GG formatting, spam, trolls. I guess I should have changed the subject line. Ditching usenet solves the GG problem and a number of other problems as well.
>> IOW we are unfortunately conflating two completely unrelated things: >> 1. GG has some technical problems which are fairly easy to solve >> 2. All kinds of people hop onto the list. In addition to genuine ones there >> are >> spammers, trolls, dicks, nuts, philosophers, help-vampires etc etc. > > To add to that: > 1. In this thread itself there is a quadruple-post Again, sure this was not due to GG, but it was due to a usenet client. So again, while usenet isn't the problem per se here, moving away from usenet would have prevented that particular problem. > 2. In an adjacent thread there is the mess due to html mail Guess I never see this since I use thunderbird and I can configure it to always show plain text. > 3. Sometime ago there was a long argument around the old and unsettled: > Reply vs Reply-all debate I think the debate was not that but rather should the list messages default to reply to list or reply to sender. And I haven't seen that argument in many years now. Certainly not in the context of usenet vs e-mail, which I was addressing. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list