On 12/26/2013 05:41 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:13 PM, <ru...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On 12/25/2013 09:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>>[...] >>> Or maybe I should have just filtered everything from Google Groups >>> into the bit bucket, because responding just creates threads like >>> this. Do you honestly think that would be better? No response at all >>> if the post comes from GG? >> >> Do you really think that if *you* ignore Google Groups, then >> Google Groups posters will get "no response at all"? Could >> you please turn down your ego a little? > > That's not what I said,
On rereading, my interpretation of your statement still seems legitimate. If you don't clarify, then my response can only be: yes, that *is* (in effect) what you said. > and you're still ignoring the primary thrust > of my posts. I wasn't sure what your "primary thrust" was, I asked you to remind me and you failed to respond. If you're referring to, "Why, rurpy, do you continue to support, apologize for, and argue in favour of, a piece of software that is ...." 1. You are continuing to try to misdirect from, *my* primary thrust: that in your zeal to make people stop using GG you crossed a line by posting some derogatory claims about GG that you can not support. I am still waiting for a credible explanation from you about how you know that GG is corrupting whitespace. 2. I've addressed why I oppose trying to drive people away from GG many times, among others in: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/FFAe5sJ7kQ4/SXXunRofxtEJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/Rxw7H4yNGh4/9txi2cB7ppMJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/Rxw7H4yNGh4/WRZDOzZd76oJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/Rxw7H4yNGh4/41hZ3Si5G0cJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/Rxw7H4yNGh4/jKu57BLvqIUJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/wh9MzFEHDMM/iwZKSMeRwjQJ Those are some from 2012 (don't have time to find 2013 ones). Many are direct responses to you, most or all are in threads you posted in. Please, instead of just ignoring what I wrote and repeating the same charges ad infinitum, point out why the answers I've already given are wrong. 3. I answered you in a previous post in this thread referring you to my explanation of your issue in a concurrent reply to Ned B. Unfortunately that previous post got stuck in the ether somewhere and just popped out this morning (not your fault of course that it wasn't available till now). 4. Virtually all of my responses in the GG wars have been only in response to correct or point out some inaccurate (IMO) information posted by someone else (often you): that Usenet/mailing list/whatever is easy to use as GG, that "the community" opposes posts from GG, that the majority of people here don't read posts from GG, that GG is irredeemably "broken", the alternatives have no significant problems, that reading GG posts make you go blind, and many more I can't recall. Seldom if ever have I initiated any of these debates and have ignored many erroneous or inflammatory posts that I could (and perhaps should) have responded to. > I'm done debating this with you; I'll continue to push > people toward options that don't have bugs that inflict themselves on > everyone else, It is the "pushing" I object to. I've repeatedly said if you want tell people about other options you think are better and why, I'm all for it. But making up negative stuff up about GG (or anything that you personally don't like) should be totally unacceptable here, and I think it is a shame (and sadly illustrative of the deterioration of this group) that you (and some others) proudly announce your intent to continue. > and if you continue apologizing for something that > needs to be fixed, that's your business. I'm not "apologizing" for GG. I have acknowledged the problems their FUd quoting creates. I have in my own small way tried to improve things. You seem to think though that your opinion of how to deal with the problem should be the law. Again I ask you to check your ego. Finally, I remind you that the only reason I am in this thread is because *you* posted some negative claims about GG that you can't support and aren't man enough to admit to. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
