On 1/6/14 5:16 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Ned Batchelder <ned <at> nedbatchelder.com> writes:
I never said they were the whole community, of course. But they are not
outliers either. By your own statistics above, 23% of respondents think
Python 3 was a mistake. Armin and Kenneth are just two very visible
people.
Indeed, they are two very visible people.
I'm not creating rock stars. I'm acknowledging that these two people
are listened to by many others. It sounds like part of your effort to
avoid rockstars is to ignore any one person's specific feedback? I must
be misunderstanding what you mean.
I am not trying to ignore "any one person's specific feedback". I am
ignoring your claim that we should give Armin's blog posts an
extraordinary importance because he is "revered".
Speaking of which, posting blog articles is not the preferred way to
give feedback. There are ample community resources for that. I am
irritated that we are apparently supposed to be monitoring blog posts,
Twitter feeds and whatnot for any sign of dissent, and immediately react
to a criticism that wasn't even voiced directly to us.
You are being given detailed specific feedback from intelligent
dedicated customers that many people listen to,
Could you please stop talking about customers? We are not selling
Python to anyone (*). Writing open source software as a volunteer is
not supposed to be a sacrificial activity where we will bow with
extreme diligence to the community's every outburst. Please try to
respect us.
I do respect you, and all the core developers. As I've said elsewhere
in the thread, I greatly appreciate everything you do. I dedicate a
great deal of time and energy to the Python community, primarily because
of the amazing product that you have all built.
I've made my point as best as I can, I'll stop now.
((*) Wikipedia: "A customer (sometimes known as a client, buyer, or
purchaser) is the recipient of a good, service, product, or idea,
obtained from a seller, vendor, or supplier for a monetary or other
valuable consideration")
Regards
Antoine.
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