On 12/23/2014 08:28 PM, Dave Tian wrote:
Hi,


Hi, please do some things when you post new questions:

1) identify your Python version. In this case it makes a big difference, as in Python 2.x, the range function is the only thing that takes any noticeable time in this code.

2) when posting code, use cut 'n paste. You retyped the code, which could have caused typos, and in fact did, since your email editor (or newsgroup editor, or whatever) decided to use 'smart quotes' instead of single quotes. The Unicode characters shown in "Testing code" below include

   LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
and
   RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK

which are not valid Python syntax.

There are 2 statements:
A: a = ‘h’
B: b = ‘hh’

According to me understanding, A should be faster as characters would shortcut 
this 1-byte string ‘h’ without malloc;

Nope, there's no such promise in Python. If there were such an optimization, it might vary between one implementation of Python and another, and between one version and the next.

But it'd be very hard to implement such an optimization, since the C interface would then see it, and third party native libraries would have to have special coding for this one kind of object.

You're probably thinking of Java and C#, which have native data and boxed data (I don't recall just what each one calls it). Python, at least for the last 15 years or so, makes everything an object, which means there are no special cases for us to deal with.

B should be slower than A as characters does not work for 2-byte string ‘hh’, which triggers the malloc. However, when I put A/B into a big loop and try to measure the performance using cProfile, B seems always faster than A.
Testing code:
for i in range(0, 100000000):
        a = ‘h’ #or b = ‘hh’
Testing cmd: python -m cProfile test.py

So what is wrong here? B has one more malloc than A but is faster than B?


In my testing, sometimes A is quicker, and sometimes B is quicker. But of course there are many ways of testing it, and many versions to test it on. I put those statements (after fixing the quotes) into two functions, and called the two functions, letting profile tell me which was faster.

Incidentally, just putting them in functions cut the time by approximately 50%, probably because local variable lookup in a function in much faster in CPython than access to variables in globals().

There are other things going on, In any recent CPython implementation, certain strings will be interned, which can both save memory and avoid the constant thrashing of malloc and free. So we might get different results by choosing a string which won't happen to get interned.

It's hard to get excited over any of these differences, but it is fun to think about it.

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