On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 15:16:05 -0700 (PDT), John Ladasky
<john_lada...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 1:10:14 PM UTC-7, Robert Kern wrote:
>> On 2015-04-28 07:58, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> I do believe he is trying to make a crude joke.
>
>I agree, that's what he's doing.  And I find it ironic, since he started this 
>thread, and seemed to invite a serious discussion of the topic.
>
I did start out serious.  I thought I was making a pretty funny joke
too.  I though both were allowed.
I guess not.  Sorry

What I was fishing for were personal stories of programmers that had
tried the tit for tat program challenge.

>I thought that Patrick Grim's analysis was very interesting, showing that the 
>Spatialized Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma (SIPD) could emulate the Wireworld 
>cellular automaton, which is a Turing-complete system.  Thus, the SIPD, a 
>seemingly simple system at first glance, includes configurations which are 
>formally undecidable in the Gödelian sense.  I'm not sure whether Grim proved 
>that an SIPD which includes the Tit for Tat strategy could emulate Wireworld, 
>but it seems likely that one could be built.
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