Am 13.10.2015 um 00:10 schrieb Ben Finney:
Sibylle Koczian <nulla.epist...@web.de> writes:
Am 12.10.2015 um 13:39 schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
Auto-complete is a fine and useful tool. But if you are crippled as a
programmer without it, well, then you can hardly claim to understand the
language or framework you are programming in if you cannot use it without
an IDE doing half the work for you.
Well ... you're certainly quite right as far as Python and its
standard library is concerned. But I don't know who would really want
to use .NET without auto-complete and for all I know Java may be just
as awful.
Yes, and that is quite compatible with Steven's assertion. The two
assertions:
* A programmer who feels crippled without auto-complete cannot claim to
understand the language or framework they're programming in.
(assertion made by Steven)
* The overwhelming majority of .NET and Java programmers would feel
crippled without auto-complete. (assertion made by Sibylle)
Not really wanting to do without x isn't the same as feeling crippled
without it.
can both be true. An obvious resolution is to conclude that the
overwhelming majority of Java and .NET programmers cannot claim to
understand those technologies.
I don't think you can measure understanding by the ability and
willingness (!) to type those overlong and yet similar names again and
again in full.
Python, on the other hand, has the huge advantage that programming in
even a bare minimal editor is feasible, and editor features that make
the programmer's life easier are conveniences, not essential to be
competent in Python.
Only one of its huge advantages. As long as no GUI is necessary ... but
that's another story.
Sibylle
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