Steve M wrote: > I agree with you in part and disagree in part. > > I don't see the point to making the distribution any smaller. 10MB for > the installer from python.org, 16MB for ActiveState .exe installer. How > is 5MB "lightweight" while 10MB isn't? The Windows XP version of Java > at java.com is 16+ MB, and the .NET framework is, well, I don't know > how big, but I doubt it's much less than 10MB. > > Also I think it's a terrible idea to distribute without pieces of the > standard library if the distribution is meant to be developed against > for arbitrary applications. (If you just want a slimmed down Python for > one specific application, use py2exe - I think it only includes > whatever gets imported for your program to run.) And excluding zip > while including Twisted? I don't get it. Besides, how do you know > Twisted doesn't import XML-RPC? I could see an enlarged Python that > includes Twisted along with the standard library, and in fact > ActiveState's includes win32 stuff. There's another such > mega-distribution around, the name of which escapes me at the moment. > But removing zip from the standard library so you can save 20kb seems > foolish. (Again, unless it is for one specific application, in which > case py2exe should do the trick, although I could be wrong about that > since I've never used it.) > > Now, what I do agree with is a Python that can be run from a folder > without having to be installed on the system. That could have lots of > benefits, if the details with pythonpath and whatever could be sorted > out. For example I haven't upgraded to 2.4 yet because I have 20 > different packages (e.g. SOAPpy, ZODB, whatever) installed on WinXP, > many of which required me selecting my 2.3 installation when I > installed them. I have no idea what will happen to all those if I run > the ActiveState installer for 2.4. I seem even to remember reading that > I have to un-install 2.3 before installing 2.4. I don't want to > re-install those 20 packages. Anyway I haven't had time to research it > and it isn't pressing, even though I'd like to start trying decorators > and generator expressions. >
I see your concern. But, I am talking about, for example I have 70MB in my Python directory. I don't remember what the download size was. I know that can be reduced. 5MB completely unzipped. Plus, If the python setup is light enough, have a complete environment away from the 'main' 90MB environment, one that doesnt manipulate registry settings and whatnot. -- Ramza from Atlanta http://www.newspiritcompany.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
