On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 8:37:45 PM UTC+5:30, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 12:34 am, Rustom Mody wrote: > > > On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 5:58:18 PM UTC+5:30, ROGER GRAYDON CHRISTMAN > > wrote: > >> Or with just one function: >>> def baz(x,y): > >> x += y > >> >>> a = 10 > >> >>> b = [10] > >> >>> baz(a,a) > >> >>> a > >> 10 > >> >>> baz(b,b) > >> >>> b[10, 10] > > > > Ha Ha! Lovely > > > > [I was about to ask Chris if he is being serious about relating this to the > > presence of '=' ] > > > > However if you desugar the += into __iadd__ then someone may argue > > the presence of the = is an optical illusion > > I'm afraid I can't quite follow what people think this example actually > demonstrates.
Anton gave a picture explaining why/how references are needed and to be understood I pointed out that while that picture is fine (and necessary) as part of the explanation, it does not properly address the central question of this thread, viz How to understand parameter passing in python. With this example: >>> def foo(x): x += 2 >>> def bar(x): x.append(2) >>> a=10 >>> b=[10] >>> foo(a) >>> a 10 >>> bar(b) >>> b [10, 2] >>> Roger Christman compressed my foo and bar into one baz def baz(x,y): x += y Which leaks or doesnt leak x-modifications depending on its type -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
