On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 4:00:03 PM UTC-4, Ben Finney wrote:
> T Berger <brg...@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > I'm posting directly to the forum (computer.lang.python, at this web
> > address:
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.python/vWCvLYjOWUQ)
> 
> Thanks for being specific. So, from that description, you are using the
> Google Groups web interface to read and send messages in this forum.
> 
> That is not “posting directly to the forum”, because this forum doesn't
> have a single canonical direct location. (And if it did, that location
> would certainly not be Google Groups.)

I don't have to tell you that I find this all very confusing.

> > And I have to apologize. The threads in my previous conversation,
> > ERRNO 48: Address already in use, are so extensive and hierarchical,
> > that they appear to be out of order. They're not.
> 
> Right. I gather, from many complaints by Google Groups users over many
> years, that it is a terrible interface for interacting with any forum.
> 
> The lack of proper threading support is just one of many well-known bugs
> that Google show no sign of correcting. They show every sign, in fact,
> of having no interest in listening to the requests from users of that
> software.

Ben, you may not have finished reading my post. It turns out that I
was wrong in thinking that the posts were out of order; they were just
so hard to follow because of all the side conversations. Once I
carefully followed the threads I saw that I had been wrong.

> Given that history, you might want to avoid Google Groups for
> interacting with forums, and choose software that works better with
> discussion forums. I am told Mozilla Thunderbird is a good choice, but
> there are likely others.

I don't think I want to try a mail list. I had subscribed to the
python-list a few weeks ago and then been forced to unsubscribe
because of the flood of irrelevant posts.

Ben, I tried responding to your email from gmail. I hit the reply button, and 
got the below message. Do you know why?

Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-dae...@google.com>
6:05 PM (5 hours ago)
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to me 

Final-Recipient: rfc822; comp.lang.pyt...@googlegroups.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; Posting by email is not allowed, to post to this group 
visit https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.lang.python
Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 15:05:28 -0700 (PDT)

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