On 12/18/25 14:22, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 04:25:35 -0500, c186282 wrote:

   But isn't  &&  and  ||  more better ? If the
    meaning is more obscure then it MUST be better !

Perfectly obvious. BTW any language that can't do bit operations should be
drowned at birth.

  Oops, you missed my point entirely  :-)

    'R' ??? You must have some very special needs !

https://www.anaconda.com/blog/python-vs-r-data-science-ai-workflows

The article is biased but R at one time was more popular for machine
learning. Python caught up rapidly. One of the problems with R is a sort
of quirky syntax compared to most languages. With Python you can use
TensorFlow and even if you don't know much about ML it looks like Python.


  *SORT OF* QUIRKY ??? :-)

  I've seen this GREAT language called "BrainFuck" you
  may be interested in  :-)

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck
  https://gist.github.com/roachhd/dce54bec8ba55fb17d3a
  https://brainfuck.org/
  https://sourceforge.net/projects/pbfc/

  Hey, it's got a ".org" !!!


Both are interpreted so aren't the speediest languages. R originally had
an edge but as Python became more popular for ML packages like numpy were
optimized.

Note: I draw a distinction between ML and LLMs. All the hype is for LLMs
and I'm not sure the balloon won't burst. ML is the poor relation but I
think it has more real value to offer in many domains.

  MOST of those balloons WILL burst ... don't expect
  more than one or two victors when everything shakes
  out. Umpteen TRILLIONS wasted by wannabes, a whole
  huge market segment will implode.

  And the needed hardware for good compact neural networks
  is ALMOST there now ... completely different approach
  and most likely to fit fairly decent AI into mobile bots.

  Yep, 'terminators' - expect those to be the FIRST big
  application ... human nature .......
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