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On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
I am new to the list, so few words about me... I am just one in the
army
of Debian developers and maintainers, I also look at human brains on a
daily basis, and I have 2 kids and a wife ;) and as you could guess
--
I am developing in Python and live in emacs.
Kids and wives will do that to you. I have one of each, which is
probably why I use Python and Emacs too. I don't look at human brains
on a /daily/ basis, but just whenever the opportunity arises. Human
minds, well, that's a different story.
I decided to take over python-mode package in Debian, which was
previously maintained by Matthias Klose. Since the open bug-count and
outdatedness of the package in Debian grew to the level of my personal
threshold, I decided to sacrifice some time and reincarnate the
package
with your fresh release.
Fantastic! Thanks.
I hope you would not mind few questions I have, and if you are
interested in the refreshed Debian package -- read on below
Questions
---------
I see that people are actively engaged in the discussion of the future
of python.el and python-mode.el, but I hope someone would be able to
clarify just few questions to me which I've not got cleared-out
1. what entity or a person is currently a copyright holder for
python-mode?
python-mode.el lists:
,--
| ;; Copyright (C) 1992,1993,1994 Tim Peters
|
| ;; Author: 2003-2009 https://launchpad.net/python-mode
| ;; 1995-2002 Barry A. Warsaw
| ;; 1992-1994 Tim Peters
`---
so, there is no copyright statements since 1994... I see that multiple
people contributed:
$> git shortlog -n -s python-mode.el
247 bwarsaw
32 montanaro
9 Barry Warsaw
9 klm
so there are at least 3 persons (after Tim) who contributed, are
they all
copyright holders, or it was transfered to Barry?
I know that you are discussing about transferring copyright to FSF,
but I
wonder what is the current list of the copyright holders in the main
trunk?
I would say that that is a very murky question. It's probably about
as well understood as the copyright ownership of XEmacs.
2. I guess respective authors are copyright holders of pycomplete*
and doctest*
files (and license is BSD), right?
See above. Nobody objected to my call to GPLv3 the file, so I did
that. I think that's the best answer we're ever likely to get for
this file.
Debian packaging
----------------
If you are interested in the packaging I've done:
I have prepared first tentative version of the package, which based on
* previous packaging done by Matthias
* current release which is present in your bzr trunk branch.
Unfortunately I have no clue in bzr, and I am a git user, hence I
cloned
your bzr repository using git-bzr, and hope that it will work in the
future for
incremental updates ;-)
I'm not a git user, so if you can translate changes back into bzr and
push branches to Launchpad, that would be idea. Hopefully git-bzr can
do that. If not, patches will have to do.
You can see my repository of the tentative package at
http://git.onerussian.com/?p=deb/python-mode.git;a=summary
(or if you like to clone it, use
git clone http://git.onerussian.com/vcs/deb/python-mode.git)
'master' branch (as well as bzr/upstream) should correspond to your
development
branch, branch 'upstream' is just a 'filtered' version of master,
which I based
actually on the tarballs which were present in debian versions of
the package.
So it is what you have in trunk but without website (I guess there
is no reason
to distribute it atm for Debian users. And branch debian is actual
debian
packaging on top of 'upstream' branch.
Tentative package is available from
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-all/python/python-mode_5.1.0-1
~pre1_all.deb
As soon as 'copyright' is clarified I will upload package into
Debian sid
(unstable), which should close at least 7 bug reports opened in
bugs.debian.org.
any comments and wishes are welcome
Hope the above helps.
Barry
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