Am 23.01.2012 18:40, schrieb François Pinard:
Andreas Röhler<andreas.roeh...@online.de> writes:
Org mode brought me back to Emacs for many things, and one thing leading
to another, here I am, a possibly fresh, reborn python-mode.el user.
Hi François, really good news!
Are you sure? ;-) I'll likely begin to ramble and moan about everything!
You might prefer me /silent/! :-)
if you could manage to moan into the bug-tracker, that will be great :)
* Pymacs installs a Python package [... rather than a single file ...]
* Pymacs is [...] now pre-processed [...]
* the Pymacs within python-mode.el trunk lags slightly [...]
What about to maintain and release a one-file Python-mode and a full
scale integrated project?
I'm not sure I understand your vision. What would that be? How could
we make things simple and dependable?
Existing python-mode should not disturb installed Pymacs.
Does it? If yes, please make a report at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-mode
If not, next step might be a repo, keeping/installing Pymacs alongside
with our stuff.
If Pymacs launches a pymacs-helper, and if Emacs launches an "inferior
Python shell", and M-x pdb its own as well, I presume that all these
Python processes do not inter-operate nicely [...]
That seems like a serious problem to me. Regardless of Pymacs, I wonder
if (and hope that) pdb and an inferior Python share data and state. It
seems to me that it might become fairly tedious otherwise. I do not
know yet, I have to try and explore python-mode usage for real :-).
Fine.
If Pymacs is merely used for completion because it is speedier (cannot
be *that* speedy anyway!), maybe that Pymacs tricks maybe repeated
without it? That would yield a tighter integration between the
remaining Python processes, so python-mode stays more useful.
Currently, Pymacs starts its helper as a standalone Python program,
which is also quite disconnected from data and state of an inferior
Python or pdb interaction buffer. Not much useful.
An idea, maybe! I do not know how doable it would be: maybe Pymacs
should have some operational mode by which it starts a new thread in an
already existing program, and as such, opening a window into it. It
surely cannot install itself on the main thread then, which is often
reserved for GUI interactions and such things. Maybe threaded programs
want full control over their threads, and would squash Pymacs at the
first opportunity? Maybe a Pymacs thread would mess program
termination? Maybe this is a big can of worms, I do not know.
try M-x python-dedicated for a better sleep :)
Well, have some visions indeed. Some advices from you, resp. some bug
reports will make it advance.
Cheers,
Andreas
François
P.S. There are interesting and tempting problems in there, but I have so
little free time. Sigh!
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