On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 08:31, Perica Zivkovic <perica.zivko...@gmail.com> wrote: > don't underestimate our kids, I bet you beer that they can understand hybrid > of your examples, e.g.: > for ding in mijn_list: > print ding > full translation is I think bad idea because people (read this as > small-people :) ) get used to it and don't want to let go
LOL: it's just like big-people who don't want to let go programming with English keywords, which they're used to. > so after couple of > years you have team of dutch, indonesian, bulgarian, russian programmers and > good luck with explaining them simple piece of code (or even doing code > review). Those are very clearly edge cases :-) You are throwing in requirements for a programming language that are irrelevant for kids of about 9-10 years old in Dutch schools. I assumed we wanted to teach them how to program a computer, not to discuss computer programs with other kids around the world. > Don't get me wrong using "translated" code is ok for examples in first > couple of days (I did it also with couple of children groups in Bosnia) but > after that you MUST switch to the real thing. Also *me* did not propose that they keep on programming in Dutch for the rest of their life/career. I'd rather substitute /couple of days/ in your opinion by /couple of months/ or whenever the concepts have sunk in their minds. Then we can throw in the extra requirements for programming languages (like: being able to reason about & discuss them in real-time in an international setting) and make them switch to a lingua franca. As a note aside: a small voice in my head is still questioning why for heaven's sake English would be _the_ language of choice to interact with a computer. I mean, most computers are built in China, so Chinese would be a more 'natural fit' :-) And most of us have left the era of assembly languages behind. <boldly> Python probably isn't here to stay forever, too</boldly>. Cheers, Roger _______________________________________________ Python-nl mailing list Python-nl@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl