I guess so, but it depends what people want to do. As I said, building the koans engine is a fun enough exercise. But if people are interested in building an actual tool to be used, we could certainly focus on preparing it for young people.
On 15 April 2013 16:36, Safe Hammad <[email protected]> wrote: > On 15 April 2013 01:18, Ben Nuttall <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> This month is a coding meet - so we'll be pairing up to work on building >> engines for a tool for learning Python. This is an exercise inspired by a >> simple Python script [1] I wrote for the STEM Raspberry Jam [2] at MOSI - >> just a single Python file with comments to lead through the fundamentals of >> coding in Python. >> > > Look forward to it. Maybe we'll have time at the end of the session to try > them out on each other! > > >> >> Similar existing tools: >> >> *Codecademy* [3] >> A web-based tutorial where concepts are explained and the user is >> instructed to type lines of code (into a console in the web page) to >> demonstrate their understanding, which are verified on submission. Progress >> is measured by sections completed and "Badges" are collected as progress is >> made. >> >> *Python Koans* [4] >> A package of files you download. The exercises are set as failing >> unittest assertions, with all assertion expected values set to 'FILL ME >> IN'. Progress is measured by the test runner, parsed and printed in English >> by the koans engine. >> >> *Python Challenge* [5] >> A linear set of riddles on the web designed to inspire the user to figure >> out the answer using Python, once they understand the cryptic nature of the >> clue. Googling and reading the Python docs is recommended. Coding performed >> offline with answers submitted in the URL. >> >> The Python Koans is the closest to what I want, in its technical form. >> Codecademy is the most child friendly one. Python Challenge is the most fun >> :) >> >> The requirements of the learning tools we will be building are: >> >> - Should consist only of a set of files available for download, without >> online dependencies >> - Answers should be verifiable immediately >> - Progress should be measured and fed back to the user regularly >> - Guidance, hints, instructions, progress and feedback should be given in >> pure English >> > > So added to this list of requirements (and as a differentiator to [4]) do > you have in mind that we create something that's firmly aimed at young > people? > > Safe > > >> >> Writing the koans-style engine is, in itself, quite a fun exercise. I've >> done it before in PHP [6]. Pairs are free to choose the style of their >> tool, but if we all have the same aim, it'll be interesting to compare >> approaches taken. If we have something good at the end of the night, it >> might be worth us continuing as a real project and eventually putting it to >> use at Madlab U18 CoderDojos, Raspberry Jams and whatnot. >> >> [1] https://github.com/madlabU18/Python-Intro/blob/master/intro.py >> [2] >> http://networking.stemnet.org.uk/blog/pupils-celebrate-first-raspberry-jam-schools-mosi >> [3] http://www.codecademy.com >> [4] https://github.com/gregmalcolm/python_koans >> [5] http://www.pythonchallenge.com/ >> [6] >> https://github.com/bennuttall/php-koans<https://github.com/bennuttall/PHP-Koans> >> >> -- >> -- >> To post: [email protected] >> To unsubscribe: [email protected] >> Feeds: http://groups.google.com/group/python-north-west/feeds >> More options: http://groups.google.com/group/python-north-west >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Python North-West" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > -- > To post: [email protected] > To unsubscribe: [email protected] > Feeds: http://groups.google.com/group/python-north-west/feeds > More options: http://groups.google.com/group/python-north-west > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Python North-West" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- -- To post: [email protected] To unsubscribe: [email protected] Feeds: http://groups.google.com/group/python-north-west/feeds More options: http://groups.google.com/group/python-north-west --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Python North-West" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
