Hi Folks,
As one of the other instigators of the code Dojo proposal I've just
found out I've got clashing dates... :-(
So we have two options:
1) Someone else take up the reins for the Dojo and/or the meeting goes
ahead anyway with lightning talks followed by the pub.
2) We re-schedule for a later date (in September).
Also, if we're to make this work, we'll need to organise ourselves -
I've been involved in this sort of thing before (LUGs and the like)
and the most successful ones have had talks pre-arranged and a general
"programme" for each evening (usually featured talk -> lightning talks
-> pub). Perhaps we could put in a short Dojo as a preliminary "warm-
up" for such meetings..? ... er, a Kata..? ;-)
Comments, suggestions..?
Nicholas.
On 4 Aug 2009, at 00:30, jonathan hartley wrote:
To clarify: The proposal for Aug 20th is for other events as well as
the dojo, lightning talks and the like, followed by the pub. So even
if the dojo doesn't happen this time, the event itself is on like
Donkey Kong regardless, is my guess.
jonathan hartley wrote:
Hi folks,
The idea of a Python dojo night in London has been suggested.
Partially by me.
A venue has been generously offered for the evening of August 20th
(see below, emails from the Europython mailing list)
I'm mad keen on the idea. However, I can't be present that night
because I'm out of town Aug 18th to 23rd.
Does anyone else feel up to leading the charge? I'd love to pass on
what I know, but be warned that I know almost nothing, having
gleaned the entirety of my experience of the subject from
discussion and examples from Emily Bache at EuroPython last month.
As I understand it, the word 'dojo' is a figurative reference to a
martial arts training meetup, to improve one's skills. A coding
dojo consists of a hands-on programming exercise, performed as a
group. The intent is to choose a problem which is simple enough to
allow participants to focus on the process of arriving at the
solution, without being overly distracted by the unknowns of the
problem domain or any inherent complexities of the resulting code.
This makes it an ideal format to learn or hone skills such as:
+ choosing one design over another
+ test-driven development
+ egoless programming
+ evidence-driven debugging
+ no doubt many more
The best one-page description of a coding dojo I have found to date
is here:
http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~gpollice/Dojo.html
Your thoughts, objections, and expressions of curiosity are all
much appreciated,
Jonathan
Jonathan Hartley wrote:
Sounds like a fantastic idea, thanks for the prod Nicholas.
Does it make sense to migrate the discussion to the Python UK
mailing list?
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
I'm not well qualified to explain Dojos, but I'll give it a shot.
More from me on python-uk, later today...
Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
Guys,
It was good to meet up last night. One of the topics that often
came up was "we should make this a more regular event". Jonathan
also mentioned organising a "Code Dojo" - I'll let him explain
what that'd involve.
So, while the iron is hot: how about a time and place for August..?
Say 7pm, 20th August, starting with a "Code Dojo" / lightning
talks followed by the pub at the offices of Fry-IT? (Thanks Peter
and Marcus for volunteering these premises for free):
503 Enterprise House
1/2 Hatfields
London SE1 9PG
Comments, suggestions, confirmations..?
Nicholas.
On 10 Jul 2009, at 10:51, Stephen Emslie wrote:
Those at EuroPython in Birmingham showed quite a bit of interest
in regular London Python meetups. So while it's is still fresh
in all of our minds, lets do a post-convention debriefing at the
Old Bank of England pub on Fleet Street next Wednesday.
Ideally, we would like to make this a regular event. We all hope
Simon Brunning (or someone else) finds the time to reboot the
more official London Python meetups, with talks + sponsored beer
& pizza, etc. so the intention here is to provide a relaxed and
informal regular meet to drink ale and discuss Python (drinking
of ale is optional).
Time: Wednesday 15 July, from 7pm
Venue: Old Bank of England Pub: http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/66/660/
In case you weren't at EuroPython but would like to come, we'll
display the usual can of spam to make us identifiable.
Stephen Emslie & Andy Kilner
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