OK, the workshop is in exactly 1 week's time, here's the page on the skillsmatter site :
http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/agile-testing/tdd-django-selenium Book now to avoid disappointment! i've got to keep capacity a bit limited, because it's meant to be an interactive workshop, not a talk... everyone needs to follow through on pcs etc etc. I think I've managed to get some sponsorship for beers & pizza too, will keep y'all posted! Here's my talk summary: This workshop will cover the same materials as the official Django Tutorial, but using TDD at every stage - so, before any production code gets written, we'll be writing functional tests (aka acceptance tests) with Selenium, and then detailed unit tests. Workshop outline: - project setup. django startproject, startapp. downloading selenium, and the automated FT runner (will be supplied) - testing the django-admin site. logging in, creating a Poll object, creating associated choices. - unit tests for django models - models.py - testing the 'normal' parts of the site - unit tests for django urls, views. the Django Test Client - urls.py, views.py - django templates - advanced topics (depending on time) - django forms - using mock. discussion: when to mock, when not to. - javascript unit testing Who is this for? Maybe you've done a bit of Python programming, and you're thinking of learning Django, and you want to do it "properly". Maybe you've done some test-driven web development in another language, and you want to find out about how it all works in the Python world. Or maybe you've been using Python and Django for ages, and you've always toyed with the idea of getting into TDD, but you've never quite got round to it, and you want to find out what it's really like, in practical terms. Or, maybe you've done some Python testing, but you've never used Selenium and you want to find out more about that. Why should you listen to me? I was lucky enough to get my first "proper" software development job about a year ago with a bunch of Extreme Programming fanatics, who've thoroughly inculcated me into their cult of Test-Driven development. Believe me when I say I'm contrary enough to have questioned every single practice, challenged every single decision, moaned about every extra minute spent doing "pointless" tests instead of writing "proper" code. But I've come round to the idea now, and whenever I've had to go back to some of my old projects which don't have tests, boy have I ever realised the wisdom of the approach. So, I've learnt from some really good people, and the learning process is still fresh in my mind, so I hope I'll be good at communicating it. Most importantly, I still have the passion of a recent convert, so I hope I'll be good at conveying some enthusiasm. thanks for all the interest! And, if you can't make it, I'm sure (as long as it goes well) that we can schedule a follow-up! HP On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Harry Percival <harry.perci...@gmail.com> wrote: > Looks like Wednesday the 16th - eventbrite/lanyrd/something invitation to > follow! > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Harry Percival <harry.perci...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> OK, am keen to keep the ball rolling on this! About 20 people have >> expressed an interest. >> >> I don't think I'm going to try and co-opt the next "proper" dojo session >> of Nov 4th, but I'd like to do it soon - maybe a week or two after that. >> >> Here's a doodle - expression your timeslot preference! >> >> http://www.doodle.com/x5sw7xmcpb92pbia >> >> location: probably skillsmatter, so Clerkenwell/Farrringdon/Old st. >> >> cheers all! >> hp >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Gabriel Reis <gabriel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> +1 here! >>> >>> >>> Gabriel Reis >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:06 PM, James Browne <james.bro...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > +1 from me too. Would definitely attend. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > >>> > James Browne >>> > >>> > On 13 October 2011 17:26, Harry Percival <harry.perci...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi-ho python peeps, >>> >> >>> >> Would anyone be interested in a dojo / worksop on the topic of >>> >> test-driven >>> >> Django development, with Selenium? >>> >> >>> >> I've been working on a tutorial on the topic >>> >> (<https://github.com/hjwp/Test-Driven-Django-Tutorial> *) . I'm not >>> >> claiming >>> >> to be a massive expert, but it's what I've learned at work over the >>> >> last >>> >> year or so, so it's fresh in my mind... I'm pretty sure I could get a >>> >> couple >>> >> of (ex?) colleagues to help present... >>> >> >>> >> Would be aimed at beginners / people who don't know Selenium / people >>> >> who >>> >> want to learn Django the "right" way / people who want to learn TDD... >>> >> If >>> >> you already know Django and Selenium back to front, it would probably >>> >> be of >>> >> less interest, although there may be some interesting discussions >>> >> around >>> >> integrating the Django test runner, WebDriver vs Selenium-RC etc... >>> >> >>> >> So, trying to get an idea of numbers - would anyone be interested? >>> >> London >>> >> area, venue suggestions also gratefully accepted... >>> >> >>> >> HP >>> >> >>> >> * work in progress! for example, the .jar file really isn't >>> >> necessary... >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> ------------------------------ >>> >> Harry J.W. 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