Can I suggest we move this discussion to python-uk, so it will be seen
by those who will actually be affected? I have accordingly cross-posted,
my apologies. Perhaps subsequent replies could remove 'pyconuk' from the
distribution?
For those new to the fray, the topic is the creation of the new
python-uk Google+ "community" page, and whether it is a good thing, or
might fragment the python-uk mailing list community.
My actual comment is inline below.
Jonathan
On 10/12/2012 17:15, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote:
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Hi,
On 10/12/12 15:10, Martin P. Hellwig wrote:
Hi Tim/All,
My intention is to have a point of presence for the uk python
community outside of organizing the UK PyCon. As you have pointed
out that outside of conference organization, there is not much of
UK python going on. By creating the community page I hope that we
can keep this list more pure towards UK PyCon's and move the
'noise' (as far as there was any) towards the community page. Of
course I will try to bridge anything interesting from the list
towards the community page, but the community page is just that and
the mailing list for the pycon uk is also just that :-) I find
using google+ communities rather easy and perhaps it for others
less of a hurdle too. I hope that we can create a better
representation of the UK Python Developers via this.
As alwyas I am open for any suggestions.
The python-uk mailing list serves us well. The suggestion of a G+
locations feels like a bad idea since it's duplication of something
that already does a fine job and causes fragmentation.
While not the world's most active list, there are at least three user
groups (London Python Dojo, Campug and Reading Dojo) who post every
month with traffic from elsewhere (Sheffield???) and the odd job
announcement.
Obviously, *this* (pyconuk) list only ever gets active around, er,
PyconUK.
If you want something more immediate and real-time there's also the
python-uk channel on freenode IRC.
N.
While I understand the many objections due to fragmentation and
accessibility (and it's just the sort of curmudgeonly viewpoint I might
normally espouse myself) they ought to be balanced against the empirical
observation that traffic to the python-uk list is very light, while
Martin and other's posts to the new G+ 'community' in the last few days
seem to substantially outweigh it.
This might just be because the G+ community is novel and is seeing
sign-up traffic that will quickly ebb, or maybe it's because it's hip
and accessible to a more thrilling and vibrant crowd. Regardless, I
think it's showing promising signs of life, and while I might personally
prefer the safe and familiar environment of the monospaced mailing list,
I have to grant that the content is ultimately the point, not the
medium. Martin might just have started something wonderful, and I think
should be encouraged to nurture it, and see what transpires.
Cheers,
Jonathan
Cheers,
Martin
On 10 December 2012 14:50, Tim Golden <m...@timgolden.me.uk
<mailto:m...@timgolden.me.uk>> wrote:
On 10/12/2012 14:32, Martin P. Hellwig wrote:
Hi All,
I now that I have been absent for a number of years on this list,
but now after changing jobs (well I am in the middle of it
again),
changing
homes and being a daddy (still am) I have come to a point where I
can get more actively involved again.
Since google lately communities introduced , I have started the
Python-UK one, however I hope that I can involve some members on
this list too, especially in the event of conflicts of
moderation.
I know that some members do not think too highly about the
omnipresent of google, however I do think it is nicely
implemented and can
give good
reach out to the community.
I am... ambivalent on the subject of Google Plus. Could you,
perhaps, outline what you think it brings to the party? The
immediately obvious downside is that it becomes yet another place
to keep track of if you want to know what's going on. (Not that an
awful lot does go on the Python UK community :) ).
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