> On 7 Dec 2016, at 10:31, Richard Smith <rich...@indigo3.com> wrote:
> 
> What was rude about it? We should expect recruitment agents to do a little 
> work to gain our trust. There are far too many bad agents in the world who 
> think it's acceptable to cold-call, spam, bully, edit CVs, fake candidates 
> and many underhanded activities.

What was rude about it? I will quote you back to yourself:

> It was clear from the OPs post that no thought was put into making the post
> and that her intention was simply to float it out there to get some fish
> biting.
> 
> Had Sophie made an effort, perhaps I might have been more accommodating. As
> it stands, I've no interest in dealing with lazy recruitment agents.

In these two paragraphs you assert that Sophie is lazy, cynical, and 
opportunistic. Those assertions are rude. They make no effort to assume the 
best of other people. They judge a human being’s actions through the lens of 
their job title alone. That kind of behaviour is uncharitable, and it is rude, 
and it is frankly below us as a community. While I’m here, I should note that 
your claim that you weren’t being rude is followed by a discussion about “bad 
agents […] who think it’s acceptable to cold-call, spam, bully, edit CVs, fake 
candidates, and many underhanded activities”, when even a most charitable 
reading of this situation gives you enough evidence to accuse OP of *at most* 
spamming.

Your disinterest in dealing with lazy recruitment agents is best dealt with by 
marking the mail as read, adding the sender to a block list, and moving on. But 
the fact that you feel personally aggrieved by recruiter behaviour does not 
justify this rant. If you would like to discuss whether recruiter mail should 
be allowed on this mailing list, feel free. However, you should try to avoid 
making it personal. Criticise the work, not the messenger. And if I’m wrong 
about your motives and you genuinely do want to criticise OP, you should be 
up-front about that rather than pretending you aren’t doing it, and then you 
should expect that other people on the mailing list will call you out when you 
do it.

This nonsense is why communities feel the need to put codes of conduct in 
place. The original incident is long over, with all relevant people having 
apologised for the various miscommunications. No bad intent was had on either 
side: it was a classic miscommunication. The incident itself required no CoC to 
resolve. But rather than let this lie, you appear to have felt the need to make 
the principled stand that no apology was needed because recruiters are bad 
people who deserve to be mocked. If that’s your position, then you find 
yourself at odds with the norms on this list, which allow job posts. You should 
feel free to change that norm, but you should not assume that you have carte 
blanche to unload on each recruiter that comes by. Do what the rest of us do 
and just *ignore it*.

Cory
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