I’m not really referring to it being in Maya or not, but to it becoming the
standard.

As the question in this thread was about compiling it for Maya, to which
you suggested PySide instead, I felt it necessary to point out that PyQt is
an equally valid option and not something to dismiss simply because
Autodesk has chosen to bundle PySide with Maya.

At the end of the day, we’re talking about basing our development on
something that has a clear future versus something that may splutter and
die any second.

I can’t see that being the gist of how it went down in the Autodesk
conference room when that decision was made.

I actually can. :)

Also, it wasn’t off topic to reply to my comment

This whole discussion is off-topic no? This thread is about getting PyQt to
work with Maya, PySide isn’t even relevant here.
​


On 26 May 2014 12:14, Justin Israel <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't necessarily think Qt5 support is the mark of maintaining
> development, and it is 100% irrelevant since Maya ships with Qt4. If PySide
> is maintaining their Qt4 support then they are doing their job and have
> just as much validity for being apart of Maya's deployment as PyQt. Again,
> I am sure the licensing situation was easier in choosing between the two
> options. If Maya wanted to update their platform to Qt5, then it would be a
> different story, and it is possible they may have not decided to include
> any python Qt bindings at all.
> Also, it wasn't off topic to reply to my comment. My comment was in
> response to your comment about the inclusion of PySide over PyQt. I didn't
> really follow your bit about "aw lets just throw it in there". I can't see
> that being the gist of how it went down in the Autodesk conference room
> when that decision was made.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Marcus Ottosson 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Straying off-topic here, but I hardly consider updates to a repo as any
>> form of development or updates; that's a keep-alive with bugfixes. Where is
>> Qt 5?
>>
>>
>> On 26 May 2014 11:50, Justin Israel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Sorry Eric. My comment was actually for Marcus...
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Marcus Ottosson <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  About PySide, despite its inclusion in later releases of certain
>>>>>> DCCs (like Maya) I still can't imagine it becoming any sort of standard;
>>>>>> mainly because it hasn't been developed in many years, as opposed to PyQt
>>>>>> which is getting updates regurlarly. The inclusion, to me, seems more 
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> a mere "aw, lets just throw it in there" than any actual attempt at
>>>>>> standardisation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> https://qt.gitorious.org/pyside/pyside/activities
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> In that regard, I'd still go for PyQt whenever I'm given the option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> PySide is actively developed. And I assume the licensing situation was a
>>> lot easier to deal with, in bundling LGPL libraries instead of GPL libraries
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26 May 2014 10:47, Marcus Ottosson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Its difficult to know exactly how much to document, but if you could
>>>>>>> give this <http://abstractfactory.io/blog/pyqt5-1-1-for-python-2-7/>a 
>>>>>>> try and let me know where you get stuck, that would help a lot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26 May 2014 09:31, Justin Israel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Similar topic was discussed on another thread, but you might find
>>>>>>>> less and less interest in supporting PyQt in Maya now that 2014 ships 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> PySide. I was doing PyQt builds for OSX, but I stopped after 2013. 
>>>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>>>> compiling tends to not be for the faint of heart. But maybe if Marcus 
>>>>>>>> is up
>>>>>>>> for the task, he can document his 2014 windows procedure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Eric Siawan 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Justin and Marcus for reference and help, but still not
>>>>>>>>> clear for me because im newbe in programming.
>>>>>>>>> Maybe I You guys have time to spend please write a detail prosess
>>>>>>>>> for community it will be a great recourse.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks again :D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Marcus Ottosson <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just remembered, I posted a compiled version not too long ago.
>>>>>>>>>> If you'd rather hop the compile, just grab this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/python_inside_maya/yoxccAv3_VU
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 25 May 2014 21:46, Marcus Ottosson <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus to the rescue! :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've documented the process of compiling PyQt for Windows 
>>>>>>>>>>> here<http://abstractfactory.io/blog/pyqt5-1-1-for-python-2-7/>,
>>>>>>>>>>> but as the steps for Maya are a little special, you could also pull 
>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> info from this 
>>>>>>>>>>> here<http://abstractfactory.io/blog/building-pyzmq-for-python-2-7-msc-v-1600/>,
>>>>>>>>>>> which goes through how to compile something else (PyZMQ) on Windows 
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> Maya. The steps are much the same.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In a nutshell, the differences between compiling for the vanilla
>>>>>>>>>>> Python version on Windows versus compiling for Maya on Windows is 
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> default Python is compiled with Visual Studio 2010 whereas Maya 
>>>>>>>>>>> uses a
>>>>>>>>>>> custom Python compiled in VS2012. So you must use Maya's own python,
>>>>>>>>>>> mayapy.exe for your compilation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 May 2014 20:42, Justin Israel <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I actually don't have any experience compiling PyQt on Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I am positive there are others here that work on Windows 
>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms and
>>>>>>>>>>>> have done it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  On May 26, 2014 7:40 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hai Justin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can You teach me how to buil PyQt with VS for maya 2014 x64 ??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i searcing the guideline but cant find the detail proses,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> include from autodesk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this make me confuse a lot, thanks.
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